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Need help with age and ID

cvanderslice69

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I picked this nice dual train clock up today. The "brand" on the face says "Trademark" and has a 'T' in the center of the circle. It has an old paper label on the back in what appears to be Japanese. I'm looking for some help identifying the age and origin on this one. My collection, >100 clocks, is all 1790 - 1950s American, so, I'm out of my element here. The wood appears to have some good age to it and the hardware implies early to mid 1900s. The clock is about 14 inches in diameter with a small door at the bottom to access the pendulum. Any and all help appreciated!

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KurtinSA

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From the Japanese logo website, a T in the center of a circle is the Mizutani company. However, the barely legible logo on your picture looks to be more than that. Do you have a clearer picture of the dial?

Kurt
 

cvanderslice69

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From the Japanese logo website, a T in the center of a circle is the Mizutani company. However, the barely legible logo on your picture looks to be more than that. Do you have a clearer picture of the dial?

Kurt
Kurt, I found the logo searching. It is Tomoe. Trying to upload the image to this thread without much luck....

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cvanderslice69

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Kurt, I found the logo searching. It is Tomoe. Trying to upload the image to this thread without much luck....

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I haven't been able to find anything out there to go with the logo except very modern stuff. Just keep hitting dead-end. Clock definitely has some age to it just from what I can see through the bottom access panel, the dial aging and the wood's patina. I know the patina on wood can be faked, but, the movement components definitely have some age.
 

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Can you show pictures of the movement that suggest its age? Now sure why someone might do it, but the movement could have been substituted with something much older.

Kurt
 

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Uploading pictures from your pc via the from pc buttons works well, not so much the via url in my experience.
 

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