Need help identifying my newly acquired 400 clock.

nelsontl228

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I purchased this clock at a local thrift store knowing the spring was missing. I'm unable to Id the clock do to there are markings on the clock other than Made in Germany and No (0) jewels unadjusted. I'm including several photos of the clock. I also need a trust worthy part suppler.

Thank you in advance
TL

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Cheezhead

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It appears to be more like a Schatz 49 than a Kundo. It appears that the designer had a Schatz 49 in view while designing it with some details being different. Schatz parts are heavy. My Schatz 49 pendulum assembly weighs 12.6 oz, (295.5 g) as an example. I don't have a Kundo pendulum weight but it would be significantly less as I recall from replacing suspension springs. It would be interesting to know if the heavy portion of a Schatz design was copied as well.
 

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I'm impressed with how bright the brasswork is. It appears to be an Uhrenfabrik Herr of approximately 1951 vintage. See plate 1159 in the Horolovar guide. Uses a .004 torsion spring (that's a big, beefy one). See thehorolovarcompany.com; if they're not a going concern, parts can be had on eBay, Timesavers, Merritt's or Ronell Clock Co.
 

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I believe the story is that Herr used to work for Schatz and left the company. He began to make his own clocks, borrowing a lot of the design cues from Schatz.

The screw just above the eccentric should be more like the one near the middle of the plate...these screws are there to support a suspension guard if it was fitted.

Kurt
 

nelsontl228

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It appears to be more like a Schatz 49 than a Kundo. It appears that the designer had a Schatz 49 in view while designing it with some details being different. Schatz parts are heavy. My Schatz 49 pendulum assembly weighs 12.6 oz, (295.5 g) as an example. I don't have a Kundo pendulum weight but it would be significantly less as I recall from replacing suspension springs. It would be interesting to know if the heavy portion of a Schatz design was copied as well.
I don't have a scale to weigh the pendulum, but by simply holding it I did note that it was heavier compared to the only other 400 day clock that I have.
 

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