Need help identifying French clock movement

[Brucethedude]

Hi I was hoping to get some information on a clock movement I have. I searched online and can’t find a true match.
It has no stamps just the numbers 972 and 72 on the backplate and a 972 with an F on the front plate.
Any help is appreciated.

Thanks

 

[roughbarked]

Yep. It is French.

 

[Brucethedude]

Yep. It is French.

I was hoping for a little more detail than that .

 

[roughbarked]

Well, the problem is, that these were made in several locations with little ID information attached.
I'm sure someone here knows more but these are difficult to be specific about.

 

[Brucethedude]

Well, the problem is, that these were made in several locations with little ID information attached.
I'm sure someone here knows more but these are difficult to be specific about.

Ok thanks for the info

 

[roughbarked]

If you do a search of the NAWCC there is stuff to learn.
Roughly your clock is likely about 1850. Could be earlier or later for these were made for a long period.
Your clock appears to have a suspension spring rather than a thread. This is one aspect that puts your clock in a period.

Try reading some:

https://mb.nawcc.org/threads/information-on-thread-suspension-clock.187933/post-1536300

That's post#13 in regard to dating the suspension changes.
My new aquisition

 

[Brucethedude]

If you do a search there is stuff to learn.
Roughly your clock is likely about 1850. Could be earlier or later for these were made for a long period.

Thanks but I was mostly looking for anything on brand or design since I know it’s missing a few parts.
It’s for a client who eats it fixed and trying all avenues before I tell him I can’t get the parts.

 

[roughbarked]

Which parts are missing apart from the suspension?

 

[Brucethedude]

Which parts are missing apart from the suspension?

The bell and arm the bell attaches to.
The ladder arm and the ladder locking plate

 

[roughbarked]

By the ladder I presume you mean the rack. You appear to be missing the gathering pallet and the strike lifter as well.

 

[Brucethedude]

By the ladder I presume you mean the rack. You appear to be missing the gathering pallet and the strike lifter as well.

Yeah sorry about the bad lingo
Forgot what they were called

 

[roughbarked]

Maybe someone from the nearest NAWCC chapter can help you with your search for parts. I'm reasonably sure that enough of these were made for a donor movement to still be around.

 

[Brucethedude]

Maybe someone from the nearest NAWCC chapter can help you with your search for parts. I'm reasonably sure that enough of these were made for a donor movement to still be around.

Probably I was just hoping for a name or something to make the search easier.

Thanks nonetheless

 

[roughbarked]

Very rare to see any name or signature on these, from what I've seen.

It is a shame because they really are very good clocks.

 

[Brucethedude]

Very rare to see any name or signature on these, from what I've seen.

It is a shame because they really are very good clocks.

Yeah thought so too just was hoping someone might of had one they could tell me about.

 

[zedric]

Just to back up what roughbarked is saying, even if you were able to find who made the movement, and were then able to find someone else who also knew who the maker was and who might have access to a spare movement with donor parts by that maker, there is no guarantee that these would fit - the bell and bell stand would almost certainly be OK, but the racks and other parts, there is just no guarantee that these would be a drop in fit. You might be better off looking for a complete movement, or if you have the skills to adjust the parts, a donor movement may be able to be found eventually. For example, if it were a Japy movement, Japy made thousands of different designs over the course of 100 years or more of manufacturing.

 

[Brucethedude]

Just to back up what roughbarked is saying, even if you were able to find who made the movement, and were then able to find someone else who also knew who the maker was and who might have access to a spare movement with donor parts by that maker, there is no guarantee that these would fit - the bell and bell stand would almost certainly be OK, but the racks and other parts, there is just no guarantee that these would be a drop in fit. You might be better off looking for a complete movement, or if you have the skills to adjust the parts, a donor movement may be able to be found eventually. For example, if it were a Japy movement, Japy made thousands of different designs over the course of 100 years or more of manufacturing.

Thanks that’s what I thought but I thought I’d try just to say I did

 

[roughbarked]

As they say, try and try again.

 

[Beckelman]

It just so happens that I'm working on a clock right now that has almost this exact same movement. On the back plate there is a stamp that says "MAROUE DEPOSEE". Over the past year I've had 3 other of these types of movements but this is the only one that is stamped. Also, (you may already know this) the case is called a "Slate Clock". Hope that helps with your search

 

[Brucethedude]

It just so happens that I'm working on a clock right now that has almost this exact same movement. On the back plate there is a stamp that says "MAROUE DEPOSEE". Over the past year I've had 3 other of these types of movements but this is the only one that is stamped. Also, (you may already know this) the case is called a "Slate Clock". Hope that helps with your search

Wow! Thanks I really didn’t know anything about it and just thought I’d throw it out here and now I’m happy I did

 

[new2clocks]

On the back plate there is a stamp that says "MAROUE DEPOSEE"

'Marque Deposee' means 'Trademark' in English.

Usually, a logo is attached to Marque Deposee to indicate that the logo is a registered trademark.

Mikrolisk shows well over 100 clock and watch trademarks with 'Marque Deposee' as part of the trademark.

If you show a picture of the logo, perhaps we can tell you who owned the trademark and presumably made the movement.

Regards.