Need help identifying a quarter repeter pocket watch

[Yzprint1]

Hi i got a old pocket watch i would like to know if anyone can help me to identify this pocket watch the only thing I see on the moment is avance retared

 

[Dr. Jon]

"Avance and retard" are for fast and slow on the regulator. it is an odd one.

 

[Yzprint1]

"Avance and retard" are for fast and slow on the regulator. it is an odd one.

I didn't know that thank you

 

[eri231]

It was built by Charles Hahn, who later became Landeron, a patent of Auguste Gentil issued in 1897 was used. The patent number ( ch14358) is not reported, so this movement was built at least ten years after 1897
Regards enrico

 

[Yzprint1]

It was built by Charles Hahn, who later became Landeron, a patent of Auguste Gentil issued in 1897 was used. The patent number ( ch14358) is not reported, so this movement was built at least ten years after 1897
Regards enrico

thank you very much for the information can you please tell me more about the symbols on the watch ? do you know if this is a rare movement?

 

[eri231]

The star with the D is Durrstein's Monopol brand a German signature, the mark on the left is the German hallmark (Full Moon, Corona) which identifies gold, below the two Swiss hallmarks ( squirrel) for 14 K gold.

Regards enrico

 

[Yzprint1]

The star with the D is Durrstein's Monopol brand a German signature, the mark on the left is the German hallmark (Full Moon, Corona) which identifies gold, below the two Swiss hallmarks ( squirrel) for 14 K gold.
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Regards enrico

i know nothing about watches i just want to understand the movement was build by Charles Hahn and the watch was sold by Durrstein's Monopol in germany ?

 

[eri231]

Yes
Regards enrico

 

[Bernhard J.]

(Full Moon, Corona)

One small and mainly irrelevant detail, it is called crown and sun for German gold, according to the relevant order of 1886, see attached.

Cheers, Bernhard

https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/feingehstempg/FeinGehStempG.pdf

 

[Yzprint1]

Yes
Regards enrico

thank you
i tried looking for this movement all over i haven't found anything the same it probably most be a very rare movement?
how much would a watch like this be worth in working condition ?

 

[eri231]

One small and mainly irrelevant detail, it is called crown and sun for German gold, according to the relevant order of 1886, see attached.

Cheers, Bernhard

https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/feingehstempg/FeinGehStempG.pdf

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One small and mainly irrelevant detail, it is called crown and sun for German gold, according to the relevant order of 1886, see attached.

Cheers, Bernhard

https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/feingehstempg/FeinGehStempG.pdf

Thank you for the clarification. I always believed it was a full moon
Regards enrico

 

[Yzprint1]

Hi can anyone recommend a expert that could repair this watch the balance wheel is broken

 

[gmorse]

Hi Yzprint1,

...can anyone recommend a expert that could repair this watch the balance wheel is broken

Yes, speak to Doug Shuman, (his name here is dshumans).

Regards,

Graham

 

[Yzprint1]

Hi Yzprint1,


Yes, speak to Doug Shuman, (his name here is dshumans).

Regards,

Graham

Thank you

 

[Yzprint1]

Here is a update i sent the watch to doug shuman dshumans he did a quick and amazing job he is truly an Expert and knows his work. for more check out his report

Complicated Watch Repairs .......dshumans@gmail.com

14K Hahn Landeron Quarter Repeater As received, this good quality 14K solid gold, 19 jewel, quarter repeater would run some and chime repeat...

dswatchrepairs.blogspot.com

 

[gmorse]

Hi Yzprint1,

I'm glad your watch is now back in a fully working state; Doug is one of the best, and so quick!

Regards,

Graham

 

[mosesgodfrey]

What a great write up, too! Thanks for sharing it, and well done, Doug!!

Seeing the setting works, low sn and barrel, could this be from mid/late 1890s? The Durrstein mark was in place by 1887. Chs Hahn & Cie formed in 1889 out of Hanni Freres. Their first movement deposit (27 models) was in 1893, so certainly after that. By end of 1896 they’d deposited more than 60 distinct movement models, none of which I can see.

Here is a Hahn under-dial in 1903. Since becoming visible, the barrels have a large center screw, not an arbor.

And here is a close deposit for Yzprint1’s, from 1906. Usually, I’d say it’s “the” deposit. But to my eyes, it is an evolution, not a precursor. Hoping to learn more from those who’ve seen lots of these.

 

[Yzprint1]

Hi does anyone know if there is a database for Hahn lendorsen pocket watch the number on my watch is 8994.
Also does anyone know if its possible to buy a original hahn landeron box