Need either help or good cuckoo repair in New Hampshire

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  1. POWERSTROKE

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    I just moved here and have 2 cuckoo clocks. They’re about 12 years old but barely used. They were run before I moved and everything’s was working fine. One clock is fine, the other upon opening out of the box it came in with all the clips for the bellows installed etc does not close the cuckoo door when it’s done. It will cuckoo and then the door stays open. I checked and the wire is under the tail. Makes no sense. Was working. I removed the hands(wooden) now the hour Hand is loose. Is that supposed to be glued on? It looks like glue remnant on the back of the hand. What do I use? Is there a simple fix for the cuckoo door not closing? I don’t think it’s serious. Nothing looks bent or broken and it was packed properly with all the parts in the styrofoam it was supposed to be in. If not, who knows what there doing up this way? The movement still looks brand new.
     
  2. POWERSTROKE

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    While removing the hands from a cuckoo clock the hour hand which is an original wooden one came off of the brass bushing that holds it to the movement stem. You can see the remnants of some sort of glue that held the wooden hand to the brass bushing which is tightly fit to the movement.

    first off, what kind of glue do I use to re attach the wooden hour hand to the brass bushing? For future reference, how do you remove the hour hand it is on a brass Bush that is tightly fit to the clocks movement? How much glue do I use? This was like this from the factory, as it was a gift to me brand new. Also, can I glue this to the bushing without removing the bushing from the clock? It’s firmly stuck on there and might be easier to glue it in place.
     
  3. Willie X

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    On most.cuckoos, the hands and hand hardware go on in the order (and orientation) shown in this photo.
    No glue. Willie X
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    Yes. The hand is held on with pressure, not glue. That allows you to change it's position if you need to, so it will strike exactly on the hour.
     
  5. POWERSTROKE

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    The hour hand is loose on the bushing. Ther was glue residue on the hand/bushing Interface. This was bought new.
     
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    The hour hand pushes onto the hour cannon. It does not have a bushing. Can you show us a pic of the hands you have?
    Yours may have a nut that goes behind the minute hand. It keeps the hour pipe free to turn. In other words, it screws part way on, then the outer nut presses the hand against it.
     
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    #7 shutterbug, Oct 24, 2019
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    I merged the two threads about this clock. It may be a different clock too, but the issues are the same, and the answers given will apply equally :)
    At the bottom of the bird perch wire, there's a spring. I suspect that during the move, that spring came loose at the end where it attaches to the front plate.
    You can wrap it around the post and hook it back on. Then all should be well.
    Here's a pic of some hands that might help. The back nut doesn't touch the hour hand.

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    #8 POWERSTROKE, Oct 24, 2019
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    As you can see the hour hand has too much space between itself and the I it’s hand to create pressure. This was fine until I touched it. You can actually see the small glue residue on the hour hand bushing. That hand just spins on that brass bushing freely. What keeps that tight on that bushing?

    then, where is this spring we are talking about? I notice if I gently push the birds head down the door will close..,,,

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    #9 Willie X, Oct 24, 2019
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    Pow,

    It is designed to allow the hand to slip/rotate to wherever it needs to be and then the nut is tightened to hold the hand in place. Again, no glue.

    Just saw your photo, looks like you have been speaking of the hour hand ... That little brass ferule will need to be pulled off the shaft, it's a slip fit. Then glue it into the back side of the hand. Super glue is fine but use absolutely the smallest amount you can. Apply pressure until it sets using some kind of paper clip, clothes pin, etc. When dry, just slip it back on. It should turn but not be to loose.

    Note, don't try to do this 'glue' operation with the ferule still in the shaft. The reasons are many.

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    #11 shutterbug, Oct 24, 2019
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    Nothing behind the hour hand. It goes on alone.
    Lets see a pic of the bird door stuck open. Sounds like it's binding on the case, or maybe the tail is binding on the lift wire.
    Edit: you were posting the video as I was typing :)
    You have something behind the hour hand. Remove that.
    The door issue still looks like the spring came disconnected. Here's a pic of a similar spring.

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  12. POWERSTROKE

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    There is a press for bushing as you can see in my video. There was glue residue on the hand and that bushing. The hand does not press for on that bushing.
     
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    I believe that spring is still connected. If I manually open and close the door it will most likely close. Maybe the spring is lazy? Not much use in this clock, and worked fine.
     
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    the door will close without the spring attached, but it should snap closed with an audible pop.
     
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    It seems like it’s getting hung up on something. Even if I manually try to push that little rod closed from the side door it seems something is blocking it.....



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    OK. How about a pic looking in the back door, up by the bird?
     
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    #17 POWERSTROKE, Oct 24, 2019
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    Here ya go. If I slightly push down on his head it will close. It actually makes no sense. I packed the whole clock carefully I. The factory box with all the clips for the bellows etc. all of a sudden it’s doing this.. as you can see the clock is clean, very little use, and taken care of.

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    I slightly tilted the top of the clock away from the wall and it’s working
     
  19. Willie X

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    How long is the nail. It can interfere with the bird if to long.

    Also, the nail should be driven in at an angle to hold the clocks against the wall.
    About 30 degrees to the horizontal seems to be ideal.

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    It looks like your bird is sitting a little high. You could loosen that back screw and tip the bird forward a little so he clears the top of the door.
     
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    Where in NH?
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    #23 POWERSTROKE, Oct 25, 2019
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    Taking wooden hour hands off the cuckoo, never pull the hand off, twist and pull and it should stay together.
     

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