Clint Geller

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I do not have that information.



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I was just wondering, because E. Howard & Co. definitely charged a premium for movements with patent versus simple regulators. The patent regulators were either Mershon's rack and pin, or Reed's whip, depending on the time period.
 
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Hey Clint,

Thanks to Greg, we know that J.T. Scott was selling the patent regulator BWR for $67.50 In 1876, the plain regulator for $60,

Stem wind BWR with pat regulator for $80 and without $72.50. I've not seen a S.W. in real life without the patent reg, but I'm also missing observations from a few runs.

So basically Scott charging $7.50 for the patent reg.


In terms of parts, in the 1875 material list the polished steel patent index plates at $10 a dozen, and the screw & nut combo was $16 a dozen purchased from the factory.

Unfortunately I'm not sure about what the movements cost from the factory.
 
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Why do great threads always have a conflict? There is always someone that has to pick the brown out of the chicken poop. At the end of that task, it's still chicken poop. I understand the strict nature of thread subject (sort of), but if it is well received, why throw a clod in the churn? Stats and bonafide proof are not always needed. Do we need a document to have fun in a great thread, and see some fine watches? Let's see some more great watches and have a good time doing it.
Personally I prefer picking fly s---t out of pepper. ;-)
 

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Some might suggest I have gone astray with all of my little 12-size watches that only get lost in your pocket. However, my first pocket watch, the one that got me started in this hobby back in the '60s, was an iconic Hamilton 992. Pretty good for a kid just starting middle school ("junior high" back then).
I would annoy the bus drivers when I told them their watch was fast (or slow) according to my Hamilton. When they asked what I set my watch to I would let them know had I checked it with WWV (National Bureau of Standards shortwave time signal). (wise-a** kid).
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I bought this Waltham 1892-model Vanguard in the 1970s from the Southern Pacific watch inspector in Los Angeles. He had re-cased it in this NOS Star watch case. I admit to changing out the metal boxcar dial that he had on it.
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Happy National American Railroad Pocket Watch Day!!!

Here is an Illinois Grade 186 16 size circa 1900 that I bought early in my collecting for a whopping $66.00.
I thought it had a really cool looking movement. I had seen some of the moon shaped clicks with only the
one ratchet wheel exposed and liked them. This was once gold flashed but most is now gone.

I think I'll wear this 186 Getty design today. Total production 4270.

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In honor of NARRPW day, I'll show this one... A 940 with the jeweler's name on the dial and Conductor's name on the movement. Pretty safe bet that this watch saw time on the Union Pacific.

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Crescent St today.

It is running, but the picture came.out like it was at a perfect stop, interesting.

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This was the latest greatest thing when it came out. Packed full of new innovations as described in the article which is from the June of 1870, "The Watchmaker and Jeweler".
 

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Happy National American Railroad Pocket Watch Day!!!

Here is an Illinois Grade 186 16 size circa 1900 that I bought early in my collecting for a whopping $66.00.
I thought it had a really cool looking movement. I had seen some of the moon shaped clicks with only the
one ratchet wheel exposed and liked them. This was once gold flashed but most is now gone.

I think I'll wear this 186 Getty design today. Total production 4270.

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Rob
Reminds me, one of the very first watches I ever bought (c. 1983) was a two-tone Illinois 186 marked "Adjusted 4 Positions".
 
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I have pretty much exhausted my own meager selection of railroad watches, but while there are still about 30 minutes left in this day (on the west coast, at least) I thought I would post one of my brother’s watches. Larry is unfortunately not currently participating in the message board but I have had the opportunity to photograph some of his watches for him. This is my favorite so far --

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Jerry, hard not to like a rose ribbon (they also came in yellow) Sangamo. I would like to point out the ratchet wheel was found mostly on mid-grades such as the grade186 and not the Sangamo grade, there are some exceptions to this on some P/Ls. Also the hands seem too bold for an early 1900s Sangamo.
 

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Has anyone ever heard of Synchronize Watches Day? Every October 10th we're supposed to synchronize our watches to a standard source. I saw this idea a few years ago at watchmakingblog.com "A mechanical watchmaker in a digital world," a site now gone, and I see no other mention of it on the internet. The choice of October 10th was because it was 10/10, the time shown on publicity photos of watches. The day apparently didn't catch on, but I calendar it anyway.
 

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Why wait just once a year? :)

I just use the internet as needed. Whatever latency there is would be on the order of milliseconds. That's better than I can visually set my watches and better than anyone expects of me as far as arrival at any particular time-space destination.
 

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I grew up on a Navy base and every day at noon a large loud steam whistle on the central steam plant would go off so we could check our timepieces. I never heard what it was synchronized with, maybe it was just a guy looking at his railroad watch, pulling a rope.
 

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I forgot to say that on the proposed Synchronize Watches Day, the time of synchronization would be 1:51 PM.
 

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