American Mystery clock from 1804 from my Frankenstein collection

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  1. george rini

    george rini Registered User

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    Hello clock people,
    Can anyone help me identify this clock movement? Please see thumbnail photo. The only company I have found to be a maybe is R, Winstanley. The clock was put together from parts from different clocks. Everything works swimmingly. Thank you. George
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  2. Uhralt

    Uhralt Registered User
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    I think we need to see a picture of the movement itself, not just the dial, in order to identify it.

    Welcome to the Message Board!

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  3. jmclaugh

    jmclaugh Registered User

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    Your pictures aren't helping solve the mystery as seeing the movement and the whole clock would help. It sort of looks like a VR type clock which is weight driven, good to hear it works.
     
  4. george rini

    george rini Registered User

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    This is the movement that goes along with my previous post.

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  5. Ticktocktime100

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    #5 Ticktocktime100, Mar 18, 2020
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    Hi,

    The movement is English or potentially Scottish, and a nice one. The date of 1804 on the dial is intriguing, as it doesn’t look to be quite that early. I would place it around 1820-1830 in date. A quick search revealed an R. Winstanley based in Ormskirk, West Lancashire, but I see no similarity between his signature and the one on your dial, so I am doubtful it is him. I have a gut feeling that the original case for this movement may have been a drumhead case, which would point to it being of Scottish origin. It is purely based on this that I mention a potential Scottish connection, but I may be wrong.

    Regards.
     
  6. Uhralt

    Uhralt Registered User
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    The pendulum seems to be a replacement, adapted from a more modern movement. This clock should have the typical longcase pendulum which is one piece (no leader), has a long suspension spring with a brass block that goes inside the crutch. You can see that the crutch has been bent wider to fit the pendulum leader.

    Uhralt
     
  7. Ticktocktime100

    Ticktocktime100 Registered User

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    Indeed, Uhralt is quite correct about the pendulum and pendulum leader.
     

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