My Schatz 1000 day rescue

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  1. Wayne A

    Wayne A Registered User

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    Found this Schatz 1000 day at a yard sale. Looks to have sat in a shed without dome for a few decades. Well I had to have it. Had a difficult time finding a dome that fits properly and the one I have did not fit. Ended up cutting a grove to make it wide enough using a diamond bit.
    Think this clock was originally fitted with plastic dome and well I had zero luck finding an original. So when I was cleaning it up I removed the bottom plate that I suspect was only used to hold the plastic dome on. The plate was even wider so if I left the plate on no way the dome I have would have fitted. Its far from perfect but its running again.

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    Great job Wayne!

    It looks like your clock would have had a locking dome. I didn't know Schatz used them on the 1000 dayers. I have a 400 day (5000 series) in the same style with a locking plastic dome. Nice clocks.

    Eric
     
  3. Kevin W.

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    Nice find Wayne, i am envious, dont see many of the 1000 day clocks around. Nice to see its getting some tlc now. Enjoy.
     
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    My model 54 examples have exactly the same locking tab system as on the 53s with a locking plastic dome. And most of those have at least one crack in the plastic at the tab(s). Sometimes... I wonder why they even entertained certain of their design choices.
     
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    Great Wayne very nice clock!

    I have a 1000 day with plastic dome too.

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  6. KurtinSA

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    Very nice job on the clean up! I have three 1000-day clocks with the round dial and none of them have a locking dome arrangement. Also none of mine have the "fancy" crown on them...I wonder if that's a signal to the differences in domes.

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    I just never noticed it. Some lock, some don't. The one (1000 series) I own does not. Looks like the introduction of the locking plastic domes happened in 1956. That might correspond to the introduction of the 5000 series clocks.

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    I have a round dial 1000-day clock dated 11 58 and it has no locking dome...it's a standard glass dome.

    Eric, what's a "5000 series" clock?

    Kurt
     
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    Like this:

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    It's a Schatz 53 with legs and a crown under a dome.

    I just noticed the brochure doesn't show the locking domes.

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    Eric -

    Thanks...never really connected them to "5000 series" as I don't have access to brochures. I just think of them as Model 53. I have a couple of them, both miniatures. As for the 1000-day, I don't consider them as miniatures, but I guess they have to be...they're certainly not full size compared to the standard 400-day clock.

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    I haven't exactly checked... But, I'd bet most of the wheels are the same on a 53 and 54. The latter having one more and a bigger mainspring.
     
  12. Wayne A

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    One thing for sure is that mainspring is huge on the 54. Was surprised that the spring looked great after cleaning the dried up goop on it.
     
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    Think I read somewhere the plastic domes were a short production run.
     
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    Thanks, really enjoy looking for these clocks and bringing them back into working condition.
     
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    Found a much better looking face off ebay. That silver plate background on the original was full of rust specks, any attempt to lightly polish it and the sliver would rub off.

    Been monitoring the swing and its fairly consistent 344 deg but what seems unusual is the center of the rotation drifts 5 to 8 degrees slowly. Beat checks good every time I check it. When I had it apart I polished the the pallets lightly but noticed under magnification that there are some machine marks that run across the faces. Looks like how it was originally made but don't know if this is why I'm seeing the center drift. You would have to be watching a clock closely to even notice this, I'd not notice without the degree wheel on the bottom plate.

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  16. Wayne A

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    Made a couple of changes and its working better. Not sure if I helped it or it just needed more "break in" time. Anyway I coated the pallets, EW, Fork and pin with a teflon lube called Dry fluid, let it dry for an hour and rubbed it off. Did find the fork was a little loose on the pin, was two papers tight and now only one paper thickness fits. Now its only varying a couple of deg over time with 359deg rotation. I've used Dry Fluid a couple of years to coat gears on my rc helicopters, definitely works for that.
     

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