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  1. HowardHorology

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    #1 HowardHorology, Jan 14, 2020
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    Dear fellow members,
    This is my first "real" clock purchase for I am not counting all the battery powered clocks and cheap watches. Unfortunately it has come late in life. I have always admired the antique English bracket clocks, but found this reproduction more in line with my budget. What was your first clock? I would love to know as well as welcome both your criticism and advice. I certainly have learned a lot from you all. Thanks for stopping by.

    Cheers,

    Howard

    About the clock:

    Matthias Bäuerle (M.B.) burr walnut Georgian style bracket clock, Germany, c. 1900. Burred, locking walnut case with domed top, ormolu-mounted with central urn finial ( four corner finials and pillaster missing, maybe more), fabric-backed, pierced walnut carving on side sound frets, raised on a stepped molded base with gilt brass paw feet. Has a composite arched brass dial with matted center, silvered Roman numeral chapter ring, applied spandrels and subsidiary fast/slow dial in the arch, eight-day time, grand sonnerie movement regulated by a pendulum. Clock measures 23" high x 13" wide x 10" in depth. Reportedly it keeps.good time, but is more of a project really as some ormolu decoration is missing and the the clock strike is reportedly not synchronized.
     
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  2. Kevin W.

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    Wow that is a really nice clock. I hope you get the problems sorted out.
     
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  3. JTD

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    Are you sure this is a Bäuerle clock? I have never seen this mark on a Bäuerle movement. Others may know better.

    JTD
     
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  4. HowardHorology

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    Yes, maybe you are correct. There has been some discussion around this mystery mark with some attributing it to a retailer, Max Busse, in Berlin. But it seems the consensus was that Bäuerle was actually more of a clock maker for many retailers not the other way around.
    Makers mark
     
  5. HowardHorology

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    Thank you very much.
     
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  6. 124Spider

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    Nice clock! It looks like a quarter-striking ting-tang clock (strikes both gongs once at the first quarter, twice at the second quarter, thrice at the third quarter, then count the hour on one gong at the top of the hour).

    Unless you know when it last was serviced (and that wasn't too long ago), you should consider having it serviced by someone who knows what he/she is doing, or you risk damaging the movement by running it. These are not difficult to work on, so an overhaul shouldn't be too expensive.

    Mark
     
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  7. HowardHorology

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    #7 HowardHorology, Jan 16, 2020
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    Thanks Mark. I bet you are right. The seller said, "The clocks ting tangs on the quarter hour and strikes on the hour. Currently the clock strike is not synchronized and will need some attention." My options for repair are limited in rural East Tn. Do you think a regular watch/clock repair shop could do this?
     
  8. JTD

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    If it strikes the wrong number of bongs on the hour, then that can (usually) be very easily corrected. If, for instance, it strikes 9 when the clock says 7, just turn the hour hand forwards to point at 9. The hour hand is just a friction fit and will turn forwards or backwards.

    However, if there is some other problem, maybe you could explain.

    JTD
     
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    #9 124Spider, Jan 16, 2020
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    I'm not a professional, just a guy who loves clocks and has a house full of them, so it has been worth my while to learn how to fix them. I have overhauled three ting-tang clocks (including two German ones very similar to yours), and don't find them to be difficult to work on. If someone claims to be a clock repair expert, he/she certainly should have no trouble with this beautiful clock.

    Mark
     
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    A beautiful clock. I do believe this is a Mathias Bauerle product. The company did come out with quite a few different stamps for their movements.
     
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    Thanks everyone for your comments and helpful suggestions. The clock arrived today and is running just now. Will have to listen to hear about the chimes. The immediately started when I set the pendulum. Unfortunately there was some damage from transit from CO. I guess that is what we all fear between novice packagers and postal handlers. Sent eBay seller a video on how to pack a clock and it seems he tried but the little piece of scotch tape came loose and that square loggerhead or hammer that is the base for the chimes came crashing through the side, damaging the wood carving. Also the bronze decoration broke off. Maybe I can accept this much chaos and inperfection. Bronze might be placed back on with putty or something. Woodwork needs more patience and care. It is a gorgeous clock and I think I got a good deal so I am happy. It will be great to have a real clock. I may have to call on you guys again. Thanks so much!

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    That's a bummer! Shipping shows no discretion to both expensive and inexpensive clocks alike. Did the entire chime block assembly fly through the side of the clock? It might be hard to find another insert that matches the other one - is the pieces still there for the insert? Maybe you could glue it back up.
     
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    What a lovely clock! I really want to add a clock like this to my collection but they always seem to demand a premium in my area! ☹️

    My first clock was an 1890s Seth Thomas Eclipse that was a gift from my wife’s grandfather. He’s a clock maker with a collection of several hundred pieces! Now I’m up to around 40 clocks in my collection and it’s still growing!
     
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    Thank you. It is running and chiming perfectly. I was refunded for the shipping damage so this clock was a real deal! It was a deal hiding on eBay. Keep looking! Sounds like you have a great collection.
     
  15. HowardHorology

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    Looks like I may have found either my clock or a similar one before it was stripped. Wonder why they took off 484485_474121865932937_1036560370_n.jpg the ormolu decoration? Wow how in the world could I ever replace this? Looks like there is some sort of plaque at the bottom. This example was lot 57 sold on July 7, 2012 by Arthur Johnson and Son Auctioneers, Nottingham. They listed it very generically, seemingly unidentified. Price was not given.
     
  16. 124Spider

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    I'm not an expert, but I doubt very much that yours has be stripped; they put these nice movements in many, many different boxes.

    Mark
     
  17. HowardHorology

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    Thanks for your response. Well, maybe I was using too strong a word. I meant to say that that I can see the actual hole marks where four finials and four pieces of the ormolu for the columns were attached. Also, the area where the columns were is discolored suggesting this area was once covered in two strips of wood for the columns. So to be more precise, at least ten pieces of decoration were removed from my clock. I wrote and asked the seller to look around his house. He said his dad purchased this clock "as is" in 1971.
     
  18. 124Spider

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    Ok; I think it looks better this way, anyway!

    Mark
     
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    Thanks, Mark! There is something to be said for simplicity.
     
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    I loved this one so well, I bought another. Check it out: My Second Clock
     
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    Loomes Watchmakers and Clockmakers of the World lists:-
    Baeurle Mathias St Georgen Germany 1839-1916
     
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    Thank you very much, Les.
     

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