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I know exactly what your talking about but this movement doesn’t have that wire on it when the bird arm moves out it hits the wire that I circled in red when it does that it triggers the music man. So I am not sure what I should do in order to make an adjustment.The strike (cuckoo) side interacts with the music box with wires. One wire should hold the fan so it can't turn until the strike ends, at which time it will release it to start the music. Study that and let us know what you see.
Would it be possible that you could take a picture of yours not really sure what is what you are talking aboutI have one similar to that. The bird wire trips the music box wire all the way forward while cuckooing, while pushed forward a piece of the wire at the governor stops it just enough till the bird goes in then the music plays. Push forward all the way on the music box wire till it stops the music. Make sure the flag pole pushes the wire all the way to this position.
Thanks it helps big time now is this supposed to play on the 30 and hourYeah it's hard to explain. My pictures are no better than yours. That wire you have circled is the music box trip wire. The lever the bird is attached to is the flag pole. When the cuckoo is activated the flagpole comes forward and trips the music box wire. On mine the music box wire slides sideways then forward with this motion. While pushed forward a part of the music wire stops the fan on the music box. Check yours, With your hand pull tension on the music box chain and take a screw driver and push the music wire and watch what happens , the music should start , while its turning push the music box wire forward some more and see if it stops the music. If it does then you'll have to adjust the music box wire so when the cuckoo comes out the flag pole is pushing hard enough on that wire to stop the music while the bird calls. When the bird is finished the pole pulls back the music box should start playing. You'll have to bend the music box wire not the flag pole to get this set up. Doesn't take much bending and be gentle. Trial and error will be your guide. In your picture the wire looks awful close to the bird, it should not touch the bird. All are a little different and yours is a little different than mine. Good luck!
Yeah it is playing on both not sure what it might beUsually just the hour, if it plays two different tunes then every half hour. Best way to check is get it running and watch the weights. They should drop at pretty much the same rate. If it's playing every half hour and the music box weight drops faster than the other two then there's something amiss.
You’re right. That’s the way it should work. But not this goofball setup.Usually just the hour, if it plays two different tunes then every half hour. Best way to check is get it running and watch the weights. They should drop at pretty much the same rate. If it's playing every half hour and the music box weight drops faster than the other two then there's something amiss.
There is no evidence of replacement this clock when I got it looked like a wd40 buffet. Yes the weight is dropping fast and I also notice when I pull the bird weight up it seems to get hung up but the tik is working great.So the music weight is dropping twice as fast as the time weight? With the bird activating the music box, I don't see any way to eliminate the half hour strike. It's quite possible that the music box has been replaced. Any evidence of that?
I agree i Need to look at mine some more and see if there is anything that might be missingI have studied mine but I still believe It's supposed to play only on the hour I am just missing something. Why design it to be wound twice a day? You could shorten the music time or change the gearing. I'll bet it's something simple that I just can't see. Mine is an older one but was in great shape. The verge was not rutted and it needed no bushings. Also the music box was tight.
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I noticed this wire just like yours and not really sure if this will be the fix.One tell-tale that we haven’t mentioned is that if there are two songs on the drum, as is usual with half hour chimers, there should be two holes in the face of the gear that drives the governor so that the pin can catch and end each song. If there’s only one song on the drum, but two lift cams on the center arbor, I’d say you’ve got an oddball clock or a replaced music box.
Yes!I noticed this wire just like yours and not really sure if this will be the fix.
I am not aware of any way for a bird-activated music box to be hourly, unless the lift cam has only one lobe to trip the whole strike mechanism hourly.Are we in agreement that if you have one where the bird activated the music lever, the 1/2 hour can’t be turned off? I see no possible way and it’s just an oddball clock. It’s the original music box too.