The music box is brand new, I bought it to go into this clock.
That is exactly what I thought too except that I haven't taken the music box out yet. When I switched out the music box a few months ago, I tried as best as I could to use the old holes but still had to drill a third one in which might have pulled the chain pulleys "up" a bit at that end. I noticed that the far end of that shaft is about 1/16" higher than the governor end of the shaft. The chain to the dancers is reasonable tight but not impossibly slow. Gravity alone should be causing that weight to drop and pull the pulleys and it isn't. I'll take it out of there later tonight or in the morning and put it onto another board and see what it does. I'm also wondering, if I used some of the stepped drill bits (conical shaped) that might make the holes in the case slightly larger to where I can make the shaft more level and not so tight. Do these seem reasonable? Thank you sir.
Yes, I'm also thinking that perhaps that chain to the dancers is a bit tight. I'm considering alternate plans. Thank you sir.
I had one that drove me nuts because it would work 9 times out of ten, then hang up. It turned out to be that chain was too tight. I loosened the screws on the music box, and tilted the pulley up toward the dancers, as much as the slop in the holes allowed. It never hung up again.
Thank you sir. I had not done that before, at least, not knowingly although I do have two youtube channels (one I just learned about today and that is the one I used). I took a picture of some instructions though and was able to post it. Again, Thank you.
That is exactly what I think that I'll be doing. I believe that one of the holes I drilled was about 1/16" off which caused the whole thing to be tight. I'll use my step drill to open it up a little bit, probably just the one hole which I added to the two original ones. Thank you sir.
No sir, I did not oil the music box. Up until now I actually thought that they left the maker already oiled. I'll do that.
Yes, there is clear tubing on the end of the fan brake. Seems that I'm supposed to move it up or down about 1/32" but I'm not sure which way.
So this would mean that I need to bend them slightly up until they are much more open at the raised position, correct?
Another question about that, would the bellows arms not lifting high enough cause the strike side to run all the way to the floor without stopping?
As I look at the image of how this music activation arm, there are two parts of it, one is straight and it comes down directly on the music movement arm causing the music to come on. The second part goes back to just above and behind the music movement governor. Should it be bent up or down perhaps to hold the governor in place and then "drop" when the other arm comes down? Thank you for trying to help me to understand this.
Yes, that wire (sometimes called a whip wire) will hold the music fan/governor from the time the clock goes into warn, until to cuckoo stops. This can be a fine adjustment.
You will need to look at the rack and rack hook again to see what's going on first, this could be causing your governor and strike issues. I believe that you need longer bellow lift wires since the bellow tops are laying flat. I don't believe that your other issues are related to the lift wires, just make sure nothing is rubbing and has free movement.
Thank you very much sir. I'll dedicate the rest of this day with those instructions. I'll probably have to take the time movement out because I also noticed that the rack seems stuck in the raised position again. If I do, I'll also check that flipper where the bird perch gets pulled back in. Now seems to be as good of a time to do so as any.
I went ahead and took the movement out and put it on the test rack because it wasn't it wasn't stopping after "X" number of rings and cuck coos anyway. I left it on the rack for the past week and it seemed to have straightened itself out and I was planning to put it back into the case on Wednesday when I read in another thread a few days ago that I should put a minute hand on it. I did, and that was when I learned that the movement ran great and chimed by itself, but, when I turned the hand, nothing happened at all. I moved the hand twice around and still nothing. I did tap the lifter lever and that set off the chiming but the hand itself, while being pushed, isn't doing anything at all when I turn it. At this point, I've ordered two movements for two which I really want to finish but those are still three to seven weeks out. I question, "Is my hand turning the minute hand and the clock not striking a symptom of a disconnect in the hand shaft?" "Is it that worn out?"
As far as I can tell, the weights are doing their job quite well. They have both gone almost to the floor and I just pulled them back up. I turned the hand and it did have a "slipping" feel to it. I took off the nut, the washer and the hand, then I noticed that the square hole bushing didn't look right. I turned it around, put the hand, washer and nut back on it and tightened the nut now it seems to be doing right. Let us see what I can get done tomorrow!
The timing between the stop pin, and the notch in the gathering pallet is crucial.
