Movement ID Please & Setting Problem

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  1. viclip

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    This wristwatch arrived recently, the movement is marked Swiss 15j with 3 adjustments but otherwise I don't see any manufacturer's identification. Does anyone know what is is?

    Victor StretchedV Mvt.jpg Victor StretchedV Dial.jpg

    Also, after it arrived I was able to set the hands for about 1/3 of the dial distance but noticed that the setting mechanism seemed quite stiff. Then the mechanism simply jammed up before I could finish setting the hands & now I cannot set the watch in either direction. What could that be all about?

    Thanks for any help, regards ...
     
  2. Chris Radek

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    It is probably quite dry and needs service. Unlubed cannon pinions can really weld themselves into place.
     
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    Thanks Chris, I hope that's all that's at play here.

    Initially the movement wasn't running except for brief spurts when shaken. I see that now the watch is running continuously so I guess I've knocked it about sufficiently to make it a reliable runner :p . While the stem does not allow setting, the hands have been moving in response to the operating movement.

    In terms of ID'ing this movement, I should have advised the board that its size is some 10.5 lignes.
     
  4. Chris Radek

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    I hope so too! It will be easier to identify from the front side with the dial off...
     
  5. roughbarked

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    Looks like an AS 984.
     
  6. Bila

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    Appears to be a dead-ringer for a "Derby" Calibre #33 or #37 in our opinion:) It will be interesting to see under the dial as Chris has suggested.

    Erin
     
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    Hi Erin, I found a picture of the Derby 33 on-line which sure looks like mine, considering the partially exposed great wheel.

    I can't seem to locate a picture of the Derby 37, can you direct me ... thanks!
     
  8. viclip

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    My movement is virtually identical to the Derby 33 shown at the link below:

    Derby 33

    However there's no shock protection on mine so perhaps it's another Derby caliber?
     
  9. viclip

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    Hey roughbarked, thanks for your input. The AS 984 is close but it looks like I've got a non-shock protected Derby 33.
     
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    Haven't got one on line, it is in a catalogue identification manual that Dad has. Slightly difference size, plate cut for the AS 984 is different.
     
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    To our knowledge the Calibre 37 is a 11 1/4 lignes but with the identical plate set up by the looks:)
     
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    Since my movement is 10.5''' then the Derby 37 is out of contention.

    It would thus appear that I've got a non-shock protected version of the Derby 33.

    I'm highly confident that we've nailed my movement down.

    Clumsy bleary-eyed oaf that I am, it's better that I refrain from removing the dial lest I break &/or lose something ~ anything much smaller than a 12s. pocket watch is at risk in my paws.

    Thanks all, especially Erin ... oh & one more question ... these Derby movements don't seem to be all that common, can anyone advise of a watch brand known to house the Derby 33? I'm thinking that it might not be a bad idea to have a parts movement kicking around in case my watchmaker finds something awry during the servicing of my latest acquisition.
     
  13. Bila

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    Can not tell you what brand uses these movements but CousinsUk watch parts carry heaps of spares for them to our knowledge:)
     
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    Good to know, continued thanks!
     

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