Morreton London Serial #2129 Information

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  1. Sean Murray

    Sean Murray Registered User

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    Are you able to tell me information on where it was made and what kind of watch it is? Thank You

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  2. Sean Murray

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    Moretton i dont know why it was spelt different in the post*
     
  3. Allan C. Purcell

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    Sean is correct to say it is a spelling mistake, on the dial we have Moreton, on the top plate Morettin. There is a book by Brian Loomes that gives the names and dates for watchmakers worldwide. In this book he has Moreton, but there are lots of them. It would be easier if we had a good clear photograph of the hallmarks inside the case, we could then find the Christian name of the maker of your watch. Plus the date when it was produced in London
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    Allan
     
  4. gmorse

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    Hi Sean,

    At first sight this appears to be a verge fusee with a calendar on the dial. However, the engraving and general finish don't look quite right, and if you add in the way the dial is signed, the style of the case, and that huge endstone, (surely not a diamond!), I wonder if this is a fake from one of the continental countries, probably Switzerland. Could you post some clear pictures of the inside of the case to show any hallmarks, and also some taken into the edges of the movement, please?

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  5. John Matthews

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    There are further photographs of this watch here - it seems to have suffered a little from then to now.

    Given the shape of the pillars - continental verge with London signature as Graham said. Someone took a fancy to the rather nice hour hand! Need to see the motion work under the dial, but it should have additional calendar work. You have the inner box of pair cases with the long stem design as at last quarter of C18th.

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  6. gmorse

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    Hi Sean,

    Indeed, lost its hour hand, which was a mismatch for this watch anyway. The shape of the pillars confirms the origin, as does the tapered case bolt. The comment in the link that John has found about watches being sold without cases, allowing the purchaser to choose at the point of sale, was often true of the American trade, but not of English or Continental practice.

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  7. davy26

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    'Morreton' has apparently been causing consternation since the late nineteenth century! This appeared in the Horological Journal, January 1897:

    Mr. Gustav Holzner of Blazewitz, near Dresden, has an old watch measuring 18 lines across the plate, inscribed as above, and would like to learn some particulars of the maker. The utmost research has failed to elicit any reference to Morreton among the old watchmakers, and we are driven to the conclusion that the name is probably fictitious. If any reader can throw any light on the matter we should be glad.

    Of responses from readers I'm afraid there were none.
     
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  8. Allan C. Purcell

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    Now I have seen the photographs John posted above, it is quite clear that both dial and plate have the name Moretton. All by this name in Loomes are spelt Morton, without the E and double T. Though one of them could well be your maker. The hallmarks if any will tell us more. The last owner it appears took all three hands, but they can be replaced. I also noticed the missing jewel, replaced with a silver pad, quite clear on the photograph John also posted. Looking forward to your next group of photographs. Allan
     

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