Morbier - hodge podge

[James Lucas]

Hello All, A friend of mine picked this up at a clock shop that was going out of business.
I've only had one experience with a Morbier and have done some research but found nothing that looks like this. The dial is one piece and the pendulum doesn't look like it belongs either. The wood box has a hook on the side and holes on the other for hinges. Would appreciate any input.
Thanks,
James

 

[tracerjack]

I have zero experience with Morbiers, but I agree that the motif of the dial does not seem to match the pendulum, although it is a very interesting pendulum. The dial is gorgeous. Hopefully, my post will bring your thread to the attention of someone who is familiar with these movements.

 

[James Lucas]

I have zero experience with Morbiers, but I agree that the motif of the dial does not seem to match the pendulum, although it is a very interesting pendulum. The dial is gorgeous. Hopefully, my post will bring your thread to the attention of someone who is familiar with these movements.

Thanks for the comments. I've since repaired the pendulum but still think it doesn't belong nor does the dial. Hopefully you're right and someone with experience will reply.
James

 

[Uhralt]

The dial used in these clocks was normally a white enamel dial. The wooden box is a home-made solution to hang the clock to the wall. In most cases an iron bracket was used for this purpose.

Uhralt

 

[James Lucas]

The dial used in these clocks was normally a white enamel dial. The wooden box is a home-made solution to hang the clock to the wall. In most cases an iron bracket was used for this purpose.

Uhralt

Thanks Uhralt, The dial is not right for what I've seen. Any thoughts on the pendulum? I just can't seen it with this clock..
James

 

[Vernon]

The pendulum is interesting in that it appears to have animation. A friend has one with a different design. The pendulum has a thin wire or line that goes from the bottom then up the length to terminate somewhere at the movement? He doesn't have the clock working but hopes to soon. These seem rare to me.
Vernon

 

[JimmyOz]

I think the pendulum is correct with the movement and top piece surrounding the dial, however I don't think the dial is. Here is one I had with animation.

The wooden box around the movement is replacing the metal side doors and back and I am not sure the gong is correct, all the others I have had and repaired had a bell on top.

 

[James Lucas]

I think the pendulum is correct with the movement and top piece surrounding the dial, however I don't think the dial is. Here is one I had with animation.
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The wooden box around the movement is replacing the metal side doors and back and I am not sure the gong is correct, all the others I have had and repaired had a bell on top.

JimmyOz, Thanks for sending the photo. The pendulum looks to match the surround. Not sure where I'll find a surround to match the pendulum of my friends clock. The wire gong is correct for the time period according to Lawrence Seymour 1860-1916.
James

 

[tracerjack]

You posted that the dial is one piece. I assumed that meant the dial and the surround were a single casting, that the dial could not be separated from the surround. If that is the case, then while unusual, it would have to be original. If my assumption is wrong, then yes, the brass face looks odd, even with my only experience with Morbiers being the posts and photos I’ve read on this forum.

 

[James Lucas]

You posted that the dial is one piece. I assumed that meant the dial and the surround were a single casting, that the dial could not be separated from the surround. If that is the case, then while unusual, it would have to be original. If my assumption is wrong, then yes, the brass face looks odd, even with my only experience with Morbiers being the posts and photos I’ve read on this forum.

Yes it is one piece. It wasn't mounted on the frame when he brought it over and now I see where the mounting holes don't match up with the frame. Should have made a closer inspection before posting. Another lesson learned.
James

 

[tracerjack]

I think my terms were misleading. I meant whether the dial outlined in red could be separated from the surround (frame) outlined in green. If it were all one piece, then it would have to be original. But, I did understand your response, so it does seem the dial is wrong.

 

[James Lucas]

I think my terms were misleading. I meant whether the dial outlined in red could be separated from the surround (frame) outlined in green. If it were all one piece, then it would have to be original. But, I did understand your response, so it does seem the dial is wrong.
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Thanks again for the input..