Manufacturer of this Regulator?

[expeditionhiker]

Without looking at the movement, can anyone tell me the manufacturer/history/type of this clock? It looks like it has a single weight behind the pendulum, similar to Howard? I'm a little confused as to the location of the winding arbor, and how the movement would actually look. thankyou

 

[bruce linde]

why not just pull the hands and dial and look?

 

[expeditionhiker]

I don't own this clock, yet, just trying to do some research, thanks.

 

[bruce linde]

got it... but the rules prohibit discussions of active sales or auctions, and posting photos that you don’t own.... ?

 

[expeditionhiker]

Picking up from family in the near future.

 

[bruce linde]

ahh... in that case, it looks howard-y to me (based mostly on the hands)... hopefully folks who actually know what they're talking about will be along soon to chime in. congrats, either way.

 

[Toughtool]

but the rules prohibit discussions of active sales or auctions, and posting photos that you don’t own

Just wondering, If he took the photos, does he not own the photos? For that matter I didn't see any discussion about discussing a sale or an auction either. He just answered a direct question with "I don't own this clock, yet, ". His stated activity is doing research.

 

[bruce linde]

you didn’t quote my entire response... which had a question mark after the rules/policy reminder... which was in response to him saying he didn’t own it... yet.

(and, we don’t know whether he took the photos or someone in his family did... but whoever did is the copyright holder.)

typically, when people are discussing (‘researching’) clocks they don’t own yet, it’s because they’re talking about an active auction or listing. since this one is apparently in the family, and not an ebay (for example) listing, there is no rules violation and discussion can ensue.

make sense?

 

[Toughtool]

Yep

 

[Steven Thornberry]

It looks like it has a single weight behind the pendulum, similar to Howard?

The case certainly resembles a Howard as shown below, but not the movement, pendulum ball, and dial. See the No. 12, for example, which, BTW, is 5' long. Perhaps someone knows a bit more.

 

[rmarkowitz1_cee4a1]

Without looking at the movement, can anyone tell me the manufacturer/history/type of this clock? It looks like it has a single weight behind the pendulum, similar to Howard? I'm a little confused as to the location of the winding arbor, and how the movement would actually look. thankyou

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ahh... in that case, it looks howard-y to me (based mostly on the hands)... hopefully folks who actually know what they're talking about will be along soon to chime in. congrats, either way.

What I know about Howards is enough to get me into trouble, but here goes.

Certainly has that "Howard-y" look and hands. To my way of thinking, doesn't wind where a Howard movement typically winds, i.e., 2 o'clock.

Any pix of the weight?

I also question, from what I can see in the limited pix, the quality of case construction. Does not look like up to the standards of a Howard. I wonder if someone had a movement and dial and built a case for it?

Didn't you see the clock in person prior to purchase or just the 3 pictures? Unless inexpensive, a bit risky.

Anyhow, it looks nice and I hope you enjoy it!

RM

 

[expeditionhiker]

Hi, I do own the clock, sorry for any confusion, I just had not gotten my hands on it yet. But now, here it is. It kind of looks homemade to me? There are a lot of holes in the plates that don't have a purpose. Any other ideas to origin of the movement?

 

[bruce linde]

uhm... i'd hang that on one of my walls in a minute... looks more legit than expected.

here's a lightened version of the first photo.

 

[jmclaugh]

So the same style of movement as a banjo.

p.s. is it me or have we acquired rather more sticky threads in this forum?

 

[rmarkowitz1_cee4a1]

Hi, I do own the clock, sorry for any confusion, I just had not gotten my hands on it yet. But now, here it is. It kind of looks homemade to me? There are a lot of holes in the plates that don't have a purpose. Any other ideas to origin of the movement?
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Interesting movement. Unused pinion holes => altered, too.

Doesn't look like a Howard.

I agree, case is rather crudely made.

RM.

 

[expeditionhiker]

Looking closer at the movement, there are half a dozen dates and names written on the hour wheel which I presume are service dates. Trying to decipher the dates and so far have seen dates from which I think are as far back as 1850's and difficult to read but possibly 1830's and 1840's.

 

[bruce linde]

the movement kind of looks like the style of the Willard regulators… Not the banjo clocks, the ones after that had seconds pendulums

 

[expeditionhiker]

Found another service date of 1837 with a name, looks like PeteTyler. Here is another picture, to help, but I'm guessing this is American? Probably put together by someone with skills, but maybe not a documented manufacturer? Ideas? Does the lead weight with the gear look like any other clocks? Thanks for everyone's help, and opinions.