- Oct 17, 2015
Hi what's the best way to tighten a loose bushing without taking the movement apart.
Best way to fix your problem is to tear the clock down and put in bushings that won't fall out. They should be a tight friction fit. And they should be fitted to the pivot with cutting broaches and smoothing broaches. Never use loctite I have been doing this trade for over 43 years and have never ever used a less than lower standard to fix a clock. Like using LoctiteFolks are just trying to answer the original question
"Hi what's the best way to tighten a loose bushing without taking the movement apart.?"
Suppliers list dozens of sizes. Order bushings that are closest to the size of the pivot and thickness of the plate. There are assortments but these usually contain sizes that are seldom used. Just as important as the bushing, get the correct size reamer to ensure that the hole into which the bushing is pressed will be the right size for a proper friction fit. Properly installed bushings don't just fall out.I have a question about bushing replacement. I’m assuming there are various sizes; how does one go about ordering the correct size? Is there an assortment?
The second rate work was already done, and probably the 'little old lady' paid dearly for it. Our OP is trying to be helpful without pinching the poor thing for a second repair bill.How is it that when the job is a "freebie" or for some little old lady on a small fixed income that this somehow justifies doing inferior or second rate repair work?
Okay so how would you install a bushing with the movement together and use Loctite and not get this garbage on the pivot. Seriously this is how you would tell somebody to repair clocks with all your knowledge And what would be the explanation that you would tell the customer. I don't know how to repair clocks so I did this to your clock because somebody on the NAWCC message board told me it was okay and they seemed knowledgeable.The second rate work was already done, and probably the 'little old lady' paid dearly for it. Our OP is trying to be helpful without pinching the poor thing for a second repair bill.
I suspect this clock is on the edge of either use or destruction. LocTite could provide a fix that is effective and strong. Not the best solution, for sure .... but perhaps the only solution here that might save the clock from the land fill. Personally I would not feel bad about providing that fix, while explaining what was done and why.
So fix the clock regardless of the standards as long as the customers is happy and it's not in the trash ??Often i get asked to get a clock going. many people dont feel its worth to pay for a complete tear down, cleaning, polishing and bushings. The old saying is the customer is always right. Its not necesaryly what the repair person would do, to his own clocks or for a customer paying for a complete job. As mentioned it can be the difference between a running clock or one that gets trashed.
I thought we weren't suppose to talk charges in hereWhat do you guys charge for the tear-down itself, apart from whatever repairs are done?
Teardown + replace one bushing?
Teardown, inspect parts, put back together?
Or do you suppose that any time you take a clock apart, you give it the full service + repairs?
Yep saw the same thing on the MB about charges I guess the standards change like the wind and rules the change. I guess it all depends on coffee sleep and medsWell for 40 dollars i am not doing a teardown. So fix the clock regardless of the standards as long as the customers is happy and it's not in the trash ?? Whose standards are we refering to? The message board or yours? I dont work for free, and i do as the customer asks.
I believe a while back we were told on the mb we cant talk about what we charge for repairs.
and our best advise is "you can't!"Hi what's the best way to tighten a loose bushing without taking the movement apart.
Not necessarily bangster. I think it really depends on what you find once the movement is apart.and while the clock is apart it would be foolish not to carry out the complete service, and charge for that,
If you read the thread or post or what ever you would like to call it. It was a question not an attack. I instruct people as to how I do things.I don't understand how threads get as convoluted as this one has. Sylvester asked
and our best advise is "you can't!"
If someone asks how to do something without taking the movement apart, the least we can do is try to help him. If the band-aid fails nothing is really lost.
And why would anyone imply that since I recommend a way that will work for the inquirer, that must be the way I do things in my shop?
Good grief. No good deed ever goes unpunished.
Also, I would remind one that personal attacks are still against the rules. If it had been against anyone else, I would have removed at least one of the comments in this thread.
Some folks may equate the Loctite-N-Hope to Dunk-N-Swish. Short-cuts should not be taught nor encouraged to folks who are just learning and may not know any better. Generally I tend to agree with that sentiment. Ya gotta love this guy Well said To some this just does not sink in at all.It seems to me that without more details on the case in question, the entire Thread is a rhetorical question.
SB, we know that you're a professional offering high standards to an area "served" by a mobile Dunk-N-Swish shop...so I don't think that anyone familiar with your many posts will seriously question the ethics or practices of your shop. Speaking for myself, I don't.
Some folks may equate the Loctite-N-Hope to Dunk-N-Swish. Short-cuts should not be taught nor encouraged to folks who are just learning and may not know any better. Generally I tend to agree with that sentiment.
The OP's question has been thoroughly answered with numerous pros and cons. Hopefully he'll come back to let us know how this Thread ends