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Looking for information on vintage Rolex

Peter Canna

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I am trying to learn as much as possible, including value, about my brother's Rolex. I beleive he bought it in the 80's in Zurich. Which is where he lives.) I understand I can't ask for a value but I'm hoping someone can provide some info and direction.

I've attached pictures (I hope). What I can provide is the following.

"Rolex – 28.4 mm square. 4.65mm thick w/o crystal. 7.8mm with.
On back it says MODELE DEPOSE (MODEL STORAGE)
#279293

On face it says ROLEX CHROMOMETER on top
SWISS MADE on bottom.

On movement inside it says TIMED 6 POSITIONS
18 RUBIES s/n 11513

The strap is original ROLEX"

As always any info is greatly appreciated.

ROLEX 1.JPG ROLEX 3.JPG ROLEX 4.JPG
 

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There are some good people on this mb that know Rolex, they should be along soon to answer you.
 
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The one key piece of info that you did not mention but I see in the pic is that the movement is marked "Chronometre". I have a few older Rolex Chronometre like the Viceroy and a Observatory. The Chronometre mark is important.

The info we need is mainly inside the case back. Is it marked Rolex or anything? "Modele Depose" is like saying patented design or registered design. The number is a serial still but without confirming the case is Rolex it can't be used to date the watch.

The serial on the movement has also never been of use to me. I have asked other Rolex experts and I usually get the same reply "only Rolex would know" as to what the number is associated to.

Design looks 40s to me. The style is not of the 80s but he must have bought it as a vintage watch in the 80s. Some things will play a big role in value. Rolex case, gold or gold plated, running condition, and original dial. The only way to be 100% sure on the dial is to have to inspected by a watchmaker for the usual signs of a refinish. Sometimes though you will find the dial marked Chronometer instead of Chronometre, this is sometimes a sign of a redial. Most collectors want the Oyster cased watches. As such the "dress" watches like this one don't command the higher prices.

I am not an expert on Rolex but I hope I have helped some. :)
 
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10 1/2"' Rolex movements retained their design for decades. If the case is Rolex and the serial on the case is used, as always, would put it to ca 1943-44. This would fit in more with the style than a 1922 which would be much more like the original W&D. It would typically have been a simple looking watch around 1922 with a possible silver or enamel dial as was typical of the time.
 

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lots of good info above! need better sharper pics though. 18k rose version with original dials can be quite pricey. Not scarce but desirable. 14k yellow ones with redone dials are not really too saught after. And bring paltry sums.
 
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I was trying to clarify the date for the OP. If you want to go into detail......the movement could not be a cal 600 as it has a super balance with a Breguet hs. Being sub seconds would make it a cal 700. The cal 600 was a 9.75''' instead of the usual 10.5''' you find on the 700. The hs being determined as to being Breguet comes to the shape of the part of the regulator where the hs goes between the curb pins. The flat hs had a straight part there where the Breguet had a angled flatter portion. The super balance was introduced in 1935.
 

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I was trying to clarify the date for the OP. If you want to go into detail......the movement could not be a cal 600 as it has a super balance with a Breguet hs. Being sub seconds would make it a cal 700. The cal 600 was a 9.75''' instead of the usual 10.5''' you find on the 700. The hs being determined as to being Breguet comes to the shape of the part of the regulator where the hs goes between the curb pins. The flat hs had a straight part there where the Breguet had a angled flatter portion. The super balance was introduced in 1935.
Fair enough then. ;)
 
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Peter Canna

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Wow, a lot of great information here. I really appreciated the responses.

I'll try to get a little more info and better pictures.

Thanks again for all the help!
 

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Hi again, I have a few more pictures and some additional info. First, my brother bought it in the 90's at a vintage watch shop in Zurich. He knew it was a vintage watch but doesn't remember the original date. He recently had it serviced and was told it was original except for a few internal replacement parts. It is 18k gold.

I hope it helps. Again, I am just trying to give him a ball park market price for the watch.

Let me know if you need anything else. and again thank you for all the info.

Peter

rolex 1.jpg rolex 2.jpg rolex 3.jpg
 
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Hi again, I have a few more pictures and some additional info. First, my brother bought it in the 90's at a vintage watch shop in Zurich. He knew it was a vintage watch but doesn't remember the original date. He recently had it serviced and was told it was original except for a few internal replacement parts. It is 18k gold.

I hope it helps. Again, I am just trying to give him a ball park market price for the watch.

Let me know if you need anything else. and again thank you for all the info.

Peter

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Awesome! All the pics help a bunch. You just need to see what other Rolex ref 4330 in 18k trend for. Great case!
 

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Its the 10-1/2 HUNTER movement developed by Aegler
Marked SUPERBALANCE which was Wilsdorf new marketing from 1935, prior to that they termed it PRIMA, SUPER PRIMA or ULTRA PRIMA
Serial number dates to 1941/2
 

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check Christies and liveauctioneers and ebay for completed sales
 

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