Looking for info on Edgemere Pocket watch

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  1. bseehafer

    bseehafer Registered User

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    Looking to help identify a pocket watch from a family member. Not concerned with value just looking to see if I should keep at home or in a safety deposit box.

    Images below:
    Front case shows Sears - Special - 834413
    Back case has normal Sears, Roebuck and Co sticker - 10K gold, 20 Year
    Internals show Edgemere, Chicago IL, 12 Jewels, serial 461360

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  2. bseehafer

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  3. Tom Huber

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    Your watch was mfg by the Seth Thomas Watch co for Sears in approx. 1892. I believe it is 18S, 17 jewels. Your case is 10k gold filled, not solid gold.

    Tom
     
  4. bseehafer

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    Thanks Tom!
     
  5. Kent

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    That looks more like a Seth Thomas ladies 6-size, model 16 (flat hairspring) or model 17 (Breguet hairspring). It appears to be marked "12 Jewels" which is a bit unusual.


    See American Pocket Watches Beginning to End...1830-1980, Identification and Price Guide, Roy Ehrhardt & William Meggers, Jr., Heart of America Press, Kansas City, MO, 1987 (commonly referred to as “The Gold Book”, page 128, EA 820.
     
  6. bseehafer

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    Thanks Kent! I'll see if I can find a copy of the book.
     
  7. Kent

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    There's very little in the book that pertains to your watch. If you're not a watch collector (and don't intend to become one), you might not want to buy the book sight unseen.
     
  8. bseehafer

    bseehafer Registered User

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    Any other books that might be of more use in finding additional information. If nothing else I'd like to fix the watch and wouldn't mind attempting it myself at some point. From what I've seen the watch likely has far more sentimental value to me, than it does monetary value so fixing and keeping it makes more sense.
     
  9. TimeAntiquarian

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    To augment Kent's excellent summary, the 1904 Seth Thomas Serial/Model list designates 420001-500000 as model 17 (6s, Breguet Hairspring).
     
  10. Kent

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    The 6-size, 12-jewel, Edgemere movement is pictured and described (including being "richly damaskeened in gold") in Sears, Roebuck and Co., Inc. Catalogue No. 118 - Consumers Guide - Fall 1909, Chicago, IL, 1909, reprinted by Ventura Books, New York, NY, 1979, page 26. You may be able to find this book at a reasonable price. However, this reprint is severely abridged and apparently the pages offering the complete watch in choices of cases was not reproduced. Also, make sure that you have a good magnifying glass, or that you can scan the page and blow it up, because the original catalogue's 8x11 page is reduced down to 5x7.


    You're correct, the sentimental value will far exceed the monetary value of the watch.

    Unless you're going to go on to repair other watches, you might consider having the work done by a competent watchmaker. It may cost over $200, but the time and money you'd put into learning how to do it yourself, along with the investment in tools (not to mention locating any needed parts) may be considerably more than that.

    Good luck,
     
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