Longines Private Label Watches

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    Longines, seemingly more than most watch companies, provided contract watches, also known as a private label watch, furnishing a large number of private label watches to dealers in the U.S. and Canada. Below is a table of private label Longines watches started with information contained in a data base of railroad standard watches, created and maintained by Ed Ueberall and Kent Singer. Others may add to it, or may have already done so. That being the case, there may be non-railroad standard grade watches as well.

    Table of Private Label Longines Watches

    SizeJewelsStyleSetSerial No.Marking
    18'''15OFPS66011Mvt "Morck Bros. Warren, PA." Dial "Morck Bros. Warren, PA."
    0196308Mvt "D. Wolff/Phila" Multi-Color Dial "D. Wolff - Phila"
    18OF292519Mvt "Francis Lemon - Aledo Ill" Dial replaced with a Trenton
    8375441Mvt "Tilden, Thurber Co/Providence, R.I." Dial "Tilden, Thurber Co."
    8424137Mvt "SW Morgan - Winona, Minn" Dial "SW Morgan"
    1817OFPS482567Mvt "Central City" Dial "Central City"
    18OF537513Mvt "Adjusted - Southern R.R. Watch" Dial "Southern R.R. Watch"
    1820HCLS553869Mvt "Railway Special - Adjusted" Mvt & Dial "Brown & Grant, Saginaw, Mich."
    1820HCLS553897Mvt "Railway Special - Adjusted" Mvt & Dial "Brown & Grant, Saginaw, Mich."
    1820OFLS553902Mvt "Special, Adjusted" Mvt & Dial "I.G.Dillon & Co. Wheeling W Va."
    1821HCLS553953Mvt "Special Adjustment" Mvt & Dial "A.H. Simon - St. Paul"
    1817OF613022Mvt "Adjusted - Official Railroad Watch Inspector Grand Forks, N.D. - J.Gan'sl" Dial Unmarked
    1821HCLS620526Mvt "Special Adjustment" Mvt & Dial "A.H. Simon - St. Paul"
    1821HC670503Mvt "Special Adjustment" Mvt & Dial "A.H. Simon - St. Paul"
    1820/21679372Mvt "Adjusted - Giles Bro & Co" Dial "GB&Co"
    1821OFLS679509Mvt "Adjusted - S Janowith, Baltimore"
    1820/21OF679598Mvt "Adjusted - Giles Bro & Co" Nautilus Regulator
    1821OF679555Mvt "Adjusted - J.R. Reed" Dial "J.R. Reed"
    1820/21OFLS706814Mvt "Adjusted - Railway" Mvt & Dial "Jenkins, Richmond, Ind"
    1820/21OF706868Mvt "Adjusted - Ryland & Ruskin, Lynchberg, Va."
    1820/21OFLS706940Mvt "Adjusted - Made expressly for Duhme Co, Cincinnati" Dial "Duhme Co."
    1821OFPS706949Mvt "Adjusted Extra - 21 Jewels, Ernest Francillon & Co" Dial Unsigned
    1821OFLS706975Cal 21/59 Mvt "Adjusted - Ryland & Rankin, Lynchberg, Va." Dial "Ryland & Rankin, Lynchberg, Va."
    1820HCLS718331Mvt "Adjusted - Wm Schweigert & Co., Augusta, GA" Dial "Wm Schweigert & Co., Augusta, GA"
    1816+HCLS718473Mvt "Adjusted - Henry Henzel Albany N.Y" Dial "Henry Henzel"
    1821HCLS71849621/60 Mvt "Special Adjustment - 21 Ruby Jewels - A.H. Simon, St. Paul" Dial "A.H. Simon - St. Paul"
    1821OFLS734538Mvt "Adjusted - Michie Bros, Cincinnatti O." Dial "Michie Bros"
    1821OFLS734546Mvt "Railroad King - Geo. E. Wilkins - Syracuse, N.Y." Dial "Geo. E. Wilkins"
    1821OFLS734548Mvt "Railroad King - Geo. E. Wilkins - Syracuse, N.Y." Dial "Geo. E. Wilkins"
    1821HC734812Mvt "Superior Adjustment - J.R. Reed & Co Pittsburgh, PA", Dial "J.R. Reed"
    1821HC734834Mvt "Adjusted - Chas. S. Stifft, Little Rock, Ark."
    1821HCLS734838Mvt "Special Adjusted - Railway Monarch" Unsigned Dial
    1821HC734861Mvt "Adjusted - Chas. S. Stifft, Little Rock, Ark." Dial "Chas S Stifft"
    1821HCLS73489121/60 Mvt "Special Adjusted - Railway Monarch" Unsigned Dial
    1821HCLS741171Mvt "Adjusted - Lundy & Taylor - Cedar Rapids, Ia."Dial "Lundy & Taylor"
    1821OF741284Mvt "Adjusted - Railway Monarch Special" Dial "Railway Monarch Special"
    1821OF741287Mvt "Adjusted - William Black Montgomery Alabama" Dial "William Black Montgomery Alabama"
    8795566Mvt "Shreve, Crump & Low - Boston" Dial "Shreve, Crump & Low - Boston"
    17OF810843Mvt "Tiffany & Co., New York - Longine Watch Co."
    1820OFLS906902Mvt "Adjusted - 20 Jewels - A. Feldenheimer, Portland, Oregon" Dial "A. Feldenheimer, Portland, Oregon"
    1820OFLS906903Mvt "Adjusted - 20 Jewels - A. Feldenheimer, Portland, Oregon" Dial "A. Feldenheimer, Portland, Oregon"
    1821OFLS1017921Mvt "Special Adjusted - Longines Railway Monarch" Nautilus Reg, Unsigned Dial
    1817OFLS1078217Mvt "W.M.Stone Minneapolis Minn."
    81098748"Price, Kieth & Co - Iowa City" Dial "Price Kieth"
    1617+OFPS1120749Mvt "Reid & Todd - Bridgeport, Conn." Dial "Longines"
    1821OF1121378Mvt "Special Adjusted - Express Monarch - F.H. Linnehan - Birmingham, Ala" Dial "F.H. Linnehan - Birmingham, Ala"
    1821OF1121866Mvt "Chas. E. Stifft Little Rock, Ark" Dial "Chas. E. Stifft"
    1817HC1126596Mvt "Guinand Bros. Ashland"
    81146290Mvt "Tiffany & Co New York" Dial 'Tiffany & Co"
    1821OFLS1165626Mvt "Adjusted - Otto H. Fasoldt, Albany, N.Y. - Longines Express Monarch" Dial "Otto H. Fasoldt"
    1817OF1165720Adj, Mvt "E.W. Parker LaCrosse, Wis - Longines Express Leader" Dial "E.W. Parker"
    1821OF1199595Mvt "F. Courvoisier St. Louis - Railroad Watch" Dial "Longines Express Monarch"
    1821OFLS1270363Mvt & Dial "Longines Trans-Continental Express"
    1821OF1270388Mvt & Dial "Longines Transcontinental Express"
    1821OFLS1270404Mvt & Dial "Longines Transcontinental Express"
    1621OF1307033"Mvt "Adjusted In 5 Positions - Longines Express Monarch" Dial "F M Goner, Coonville, Ind."
    16210F1307052Mvt "Adjusted In 5 Positions - Guinand Bros.-Ashland, Wisc." Dial "Guinand Bros.-Ashland, Wisc."
    1817HCLS1315585Mvt & Dial "D.E. Black, Calgary, Alta"
    1817OFLS1325646Mvt "For Exact R.R. Service" Dial "Fred S. Johnston"
    1821OF1329753Mvt "Express Monarch" Dial "A.J. Bigelow"
    1821OFLS1344370Mvt "E.A. Whipple & Sons - Adjusted - Safety Pinion"
    1821OFLS1344442Mvt "L.H. Doll - Calgary, N.W.T." Dial "L.H. Doll - Calgary, N.W.T. "
    1821OFLS1385444Mvt, "Guinand Bros, Ashland, Wis." Dial "Guinand Bros"
    1821LS1385502Mvt, "Longines Express Monarch" Dial "R. Hemsley, Montreal"
    18211385542Mvt "Adjusted In 5 Positions - Guinand Bros, Ashland, Wis."
    1821OF1385595"Longines Express Monarch, E. A. Whipple & Sons - Springfield, MA" Dial "E. A. Whipple & Sons"
    1621OFLS1396138Mvt "Adjusted In 5 Positions - Luzon Special" Dial "Luzon Special"
    1617OFLS1402948Mvt "Adjusted - Longines Mail & Express" Dial "J.M. Boner"
    1621OFLS1406254Mvt "Adjusted" Dial "xxx H. Fasoldt" where xxx is scratched off lettering
    1816+HCLS1407319Dial "Roberto Kohlschitter - Genova"
    01426834"Tiffany & Co."
    1819OFLS1450335Mvt "Adjusted - Hemsley's Canadian Railway" Dial "R. Hemsley Montreal"
    1819OFLS1450336Mvt "Adjusted - Hemsley's Canadian Railway" Dial "R. Hemsley Montreal"
    1819OFLS1450350Mvt "Adjusted - Hemsley's Canadian Railway" Dial "R. Hemsley Montreal"
    1817OFLS1506229A5P Dial "R.Hemsley Montreal"
    1621OFLS1507458Mvt "Adjusted In 5 Positions - Made Specially For R. Hemsley - Longines Express Monarch" Dial "Longines"
    1621OFLS1507468Mvt "Adjusted In 5 Positions - Made Specially For R. Hemsley - Longines Express Monarch" Dial "R. Hemsley Montreal"
    211527061"Adjusted In 5 Poistions - R. H. Stearns & Co., Pine Bluff, Ark."
    1821OFLS1527064Mvt "Adjusted In 5 Poistions - L.B. Moore, Denison, Tex." Dial "L.B. Moore, Denison"
    1617HCLS1539195Mvt "Adjusted In 5 Poistions - Longines Mail & Express" Dial "Longines Mail & Express"
    161542693Mvt "Frank Curtis Co, Decatur, Ill." Dial Frank Curtis Co."
    1821OFLS1585250A5P, Mvt "Express Monarch - Made Specially for R. Hemsley" Dial "Keast & Brown Farnham Que"
    1821OFLS1585554A5P, 21/59-ZZ Mvt "Express Monarch - C.A Clement, Springfield, Mo." Dial "C.A Clement"
    1821OFLS1593637Mvt "Fred Baehr, St. Louis", Dial "Fred Baehr"
    1821OF1599605Mvt "Adjusted In 5 Positions - F.D. Day & Co - Duluth, Minn" Dial "F.D. Day & Co"
    1621OFLS1602877Mvt "Adjusted In 5 Positions - Longines Express Monarch - Luzon" Dial "Luzon"
    1621OFLS1602888Mvt "Adjusted In 5 Positions - J.A. Bernier - Lake Magantic - Official Agent" Dial "J.A. Bernier - Lake Magantic, P.Q."
    1621OFLS1602894Mvt "Adjusted In 5 Positions - Longines Express Monarch - Made Specially for R. Hemsley" Dial "R. Hemsley Montreal."
    1621OFLS1602897Mvt "Adjusted In 5 Positions - Longines Express Monarch - Bichsel Bros., Sedallia, MO." Dial "Bichsel Bros."
    1817OFLS1606045A5P, Mvt "Express Leader - Made Specially for R. Hemsley"
    1621OFLS1608187"Adjusted In 5 Positions - Luzon" Dial "Luzon"
    1621OFLS1608188"Adjusted In 5 Positions - Luzon" Dial "Luzon"
    1821OFLS1608475Mvt "Adjusted in 5 Positions - Longines Express Monarch - Made Specially For R. Hemsley"
    18211608503Mvt "Wilbur, Lamphear Co., Galesburg, ILL" Logo in box on Mvt & Dial " Burlington RR Special"
    1821OFLS1608530Mvt "Adjusted in 5 Positions - Longines Express Monarch - Made Specially For R. Hemsley"
    1821OFLS1608578Mvt "Adjusted in 5 Positions - Longines Express Monarch – L.B. Moore, Denison, Tex."
    1821OFLS1611619A5P, Mvt & Dial "Longines Express Monarch 21 Jewels J. A Bernier, Lake Megantic, Official Agent"
    1821OFLS1611641"Adjusted in 5 Positions - Longines Express Monarch - Bichsel Bros, Sedelia, MO"
    1821OFLS1644206"Adjusted in 5 Positions - Longines Express Monarch - Made Expressly For R. Hemsley" Dial R. Helmsley Montreal"
    1821OFLS1680681"Adjusted in 5 Positions - Longines Express Monarch" Dial "Riddel & Vinet, Point St Charles"
    1821OFLS1680726"Adjusted in 5 positions - Longines Express Monarch - Chas. S. Stifft, Little Rock, Ark." Dial "Chas. S. Stifft"
    1621OFLS1724595A5P, Mvt "Express Monarch - J.M. Boner, Evansville, Ind." Dial "Longines"
    1621OFLS1737144A5P, Mvt "Dingwall Winnipeg, Man" Dial "Dingwall"
    1617OFLS1809791A5P, Mvt "Express Leader A.H. Furstnow - Fon Du Lac Wis" Dial "A.H. Furstnow & Co"
    3/01810275"Harrington & Nonnenmacher - Columbus, O." no dial
    9 3/4 L1813841Mvt "D Wolff Phila " Dial "D. Wolff"
    1817OFLS1818465A5P, Mvt "Longines Express Leader - Emile Jacot, Quebec" Dial "Emile Jacot - Quebec"
    1821OFLS1818591A5P, Mvt "D.R. Dingwall Winnipeg, Man." Dial "Dingwall"
    161864416"T.L Combs & Co - Omaha, Neb"
    1823OF1864903Mvt "Adjusted In 5 Positions" Dial "G.M. Rioch - Kenora, Ont."
    1823OF1866424A5P, Mvt "Express Monarch - Jackson Brothers Edmonton Alta"
    1817OFLS1866540A5P, Mvt "Express Leader - Made Specially For R. Hemsley"
    1817OFLS1866545A5P, Mvt "Express Leader - Made Specially For R. Hemsley" Dial "R. Hemsley (Block) - Montreal (Italics)"
    1817OF1867663A5P, Mvt "Longines Express Leader - W.F. Tate, Cranbrook, B.C." Dial "W.F. Tate (Block) - Cranbrook, B.C. (Italics)"
    1617OFLS1875342A5P, Mvt "E.A. Whipple & Sons - Springfield, Mass." Dial "E.A. Whipple & Sons"
    81879383"Smith Patterson Company Boston"
    1617OFLS1965476A5P, Mvt "Express Leader - Made Specially For R. Hemsley" 19.95
    1823OFLS1965989A5P, Mvt "Longines Express Monarch - D.E. Black, Calgary, Can." Dial "D.E. Black - Calgary, Can
    1823OFLS1966058A5P, Mvt & Dial "D.E. Black - Calgary, Can."
    1621OF1972797Mvt "Eight Adjustments - Express Monarch - Chas H. Bard, Sedalia, MO." Dial "Chas H. Bard"
    1621OF1972808"Bichsel Bros."
    82041776Mvt "Smith Patterson Company, Boston" Dial "Smith Patterson"
    1623OF2043651Mvt "Eight (8) Adjustments - Longines W. Co." Dial "A. N. Anderson Regulator"
    1623OFLS2043673Mvt "Eight (8) Adjustments - Longines W. Co." Dial "A. N. Anderson Regulator"
    1623OFLS2043691A5P, Cal 19.95 Mvt "Longines W. Co." Dial "Henry Birks & Sons - Limited"
    23OF2043741A5P, Mvt "E. Black Calgary, Can", Dial "Longines Express Monarch"
    1623OFLS2043742A5P, Mvt & Dial "D.E. Black Calgary, Can"
    1623OF2043774Mvt & Dial "D.E. Black-Calgary, Alberta"
    1621OFLS2043801Mvt "Adjusted In 5 positions -B. C. Crichton, Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan" Dial "B. C. Crichton, Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan"
    1623OF2043831A5P, Mvt "Longines Express Monarch" Dial "Henry Birks & Sons"
    1817OF2044279A5P, Mvt "L.H. Doll Calgary, Alta"
    1819OFLS2044438Mvt "Adjusted In 5 Positions - C.S. McLeod & Co'y, Amhearst N.S." Dial "C.S. McLeod & Co'y, Amhearst N.S."
    1819OFLS2044450Mvt "Adjusted In 5 Positions - Thomas Lees - Hamilton, Ont"
    18192044452Mvt "Adjusted In 5 Positions - Howell Bros, Windsor, Ont" Under Dial "Wittnauer Longines"
    1819OFLS2044472Mvt "Adjusted In 5 Positions - J.A. Couture, Thetford Mines, P.Q." Dial "J.A. Couture, Thetford Mines, P.Q."
    1617OF2050312Mvt "Ryrie Bros, Toronto" Dial "Ryrie Bros"
    1819OFLS2054097Mvt "Eight (8) Adjust'ts - Longines Express Leader - Jos. I. Schwartz Moffat R.R. Special" Dial "Moffat R.R. Special (above Ctr Post) - Swiss (below Ctr Post)"
    17OF2054141Mvt & Dial "F.A. Peel, Strathcona, Alberta"
    18172054159Mvt "Eight (8) Adjust'ts - Jos. I. Schwartz Moffat Special"
    1619OFLS2056798A5P, Mvt "HJ Howe - Syracuse NY" "Dial "HJ Howe"
    1619OFLS2056821Mvt "8 Adjustments - Express Leader - Joseph I. Schwartz - Moffats RR Special" Dial "Moffat RR Special"
    015WW2182536D.E. Black
    1619OFPS2266284Mvt "Adjusted - Ryrie Bros Toronto" Dial "Ryrie Bros"
    16172278790"5 Adjustments - Treat & Eacret - San Francisco" Dial "Treat & Eacret"
    18152279891A3P, Mvt "Galt & Bro., Washington, D.C. - Longines W. Co. Swiss"
    1617OF2365977"H.H.Holmes"(Open to question)
    1617OF2365993Mvt "Longines Express Leader - Adjusted In 5 Positions" Dial "M.G. Howe Regina."
    9 3/4 L22366707"Berks" "Clive"
    1819OF2371050A5P, Mvt "Ferguson & Page - St. John, N.B." Dial "Ferguson & Page"
    1819OFLS2378907A5P, Mvt & Dial "J.A Gibson - Woodstock N.B."
    1819OF2378924A5P, Mvt "Express Leader" Dial "A.N. Anderson - Regulator"
    16152501435Mvt "Jos. Schwartz - Denver Col" Dial "Jos. L Schwartz"
    1619OFLS2502584A5P, Mvt "Express Leader" Mvt & Dial "J.A. Girard, Lake Megantic, P.Q."
    1619OFLS2502607A5P, Mvt "Express Leader" Dial "Bichsel's - Sedalia, Mo."
    1619OFLS2502997Mvt "Adjusted In 5 Positions - Longines Express Leader - J.C. Vezine, Quebec." Dial "J.C. Vezine, Quebec"
    1817OF2504488D.E. Black
    1817OF2509448A5P, Mvt & Dial "Express Leader" Mvt "Riddell & Vinet, Pt. St. Charles"
    1616OF2510440D.E. Black
    1819OFLS2513648"Adjusted In 5 Positions - Express Leader - Andrew & Co Limited, Winnipeg." Dial "Andrew & Co Limited, Winnipeg."
    9 3/4 L2517434Mvt Birks "Clive"
    1818/19OF2519150Dial "D Black & Co, Limited"
    9 3/4 L2661333Dial "Shreve, Treat & Eacret"
    9 3/4 L2678962Mvt & Dial "Chas. Olson & Co./Minneapolis"
    1815OF2679430D.E. Black
    1221OF27442513 Adjust'ts, Mvt "Made For Tiffany & Co. - By The Longines Watch Co" Radial Dial "Tiffany & Co."
    122876419"Millard F. Davis Wilmington, Del"
    1619OFLS2961741Mvt "Longines Express Leader" Dial "Henry Birks & Sons Limited"
    1619OF2961749A5P, Mvt:"Jenry Birks & Sons Ltd-Longines Express Monarch"(Probably Henry Birks)
    1621OFLS2962234A5P, Mvt "Express Monarch - Thomas Lees Hamilton, Ont" Dial "Thomas Lees"
    1621OF2962250"Express Monarch, Adjusted in 5 Positions" Dial "Moose Jaw, Sask"
    1916OFLS2964116A5P, Mvt & Dial "D.A Reesor, Brandon Man"
    1623OF2964147Express Monarch, Mvt "Adjusted in 5 Positions - D E Black & Co.Limited, Alberta" Dial "D E Black & Co. Limited"
    1621OFLS2964385A5P, Mvt "J.C. Vezina, Quebec." Dial "Longines Express Monarch"
    83164144Mvt Birks "St. James"
    18"'17OF3166481Mvt (courtesy of oldcodger) "Bunde & Upmeyer Co, Milwaukee - Wis - CB"
    1615OF3171590D.E. Black
    1615OF3179697Birks
    9 3/4 L3279602Mvt "Shreve & Co/San Francisco" Dial "Shreve & Co."
    1217OF3294373Mvt "Bailey, Banks & Biddle Co. Philadelphia"
    123317425"Bailey Banks & Biddle Philadelphia"
    OF3345994Mvt "Extra 5 Adj. - Shreve & Co. San Francisco" Dial "Shreve & Co."
    1617OF3831111Mvt "CB - Longines Watch Co." Not Marked "Adjusted” Dial "F. Pequegnat & Son - Stratford, Ont."
    84175254"Gubelin/Lucerne"
    17”’21OF4346034Mvt "Longines Watch Co. – Extra – Superior – Adjusted To Five (5) Positions - 17.95M” Dial "Ball - Longines"
    1215OF4646345Berks (Birks?)
    1215OF4646347Berks (Birks?)
    1215OF4646360Berks (Birks?)
    1215OF4681497Berks (Birks?)
    1615OFPS4773012WI, A3P, 8-Day, Mvt "Black Starr & Frost"
    1821OFPS5939496WI, AT5P "U.S. Army A.C."
    1821OFPS5939554WI, AT5P "U.S. Army A.C."
    1821OFPS6046635WI, AT5P "U.S. Army A.C."
    1821OFPS6046637WI, AT5P "U.S. Army A.C."
    1821OFPS6046724WI, AT5P "U.S. Army A.C."
    1821OFPS6061459WI, AT5P "U.S. Army A.C."
    1821OFPS6073285WI, AT5P "U.S. Army A.C."
    1821OFPS6073338WI, AT5P "U.S. Army A.C."
    1821OFPS6084821WI, AT5P "U.S. Army A.C."
    1821OFPS6088850WI, AT5P "U.S. Army A.C."
    1821OFPS6088868WI, AT5P "U.S. Army A.C."
    1821OF6195261WI, AT5P

    Notes:

    1. Where the dial is noted as being marked differently from the movement, or unmarked, there is no certainty that it is original to the movement. However, multiple examples of the same movement-dial combinations (other than the dial being marked "Longines") increase the probability.

    2. The watch descriptions consist of watches reported by individuals or organizations, or extracted from publications, mail-order dealer lists, or internet websites. The information is subject to errors in reporting or recording the data.


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  2. Tom McIntyre

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    Kent, should the Agassiz private labels be included with the Longines? I have seen a number of those also including a couple that were private labeled for Fred McIntyre and one for the Cleveland Watch Co. with a U.S. patent compound regulator.
     
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    The Longines private label watches list has a lot more to be added that I'll get to next week.

    I guess that Agassiz private label watches could be included with Longines if you want. But, they're different models/calibers and we tend to think of the two as different watch companies. If fact, Agassiz is on my list to cover in a short Wiki article (that I hope that somebody will add to it - just like all of the others).

    So, I'd rather see a separate list for Agassiz private label watches. Ed and I have about 20 that we could add to it.
     
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    I noticed some time ago that Longines was a prolific private labeler so I started a list of the ones in my movement boxes. I just located your effort and will add what I have to it. I will do this in batches so I don't "time out" my posting time. Here goes! -1542693 16S 3FB mov't-"Frank Curtis Co, Decatur, Ill." dial-Frank Curtis Co." -292519 18S OF Ni mov't- "Francis Lemon/Aledo Ill" dial replaced with a Trenton -1864416 16S "T.L Combs & Co/ Omaha, Neb" -196308 OS "D. Wolff/Phila" on mov't and MC dial -2366707 9 3/4 L. "Berks" "Clive" O.K., more coming.-Cort
     
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    -1426834 OS "Tiffany & Co."
    -1810275 3/0S "Harrington & Nonnenmacher/ Columbus, O." no dial
    -795566 8s "Shreve, Crump & Low/ Boston" mov't + dial
    -25174340 9 3/4L Birks "Clive" mov't
    -3279602 9 3/4L mov't- "Shreve & Co/San Francisco"dial "Shreve & Co."
    -3164144 8S Birks "St. James" on mov't
    -4175254 8S "Gubelin/Lucerne"
    -1098748 8S "Price, Kieth + Co/ Iowa City dial-"Price Kieth"
    -424137 8S "SW Morgan/ Winona, Minn " dial-"SW Morgan"

    One more batch to come. -Cort
     
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    -375441 8S "Tilden, Thurber Co/Providence, R.I. dial-"Tilden, Thurber Co."
    -2041776 8S "Smith Patterson Company, Boston dial-"Smith Patterson"
    -1146290 8S "Tiffany & Co New York" dial-'Tiffany + Co"
    -1879383 8S "Smith Patterson Company Boston
    -3317425 12S "Bailey Banks & Biddle Philadelphia"
    -2876419 12S "Millard F. Davis Wilmington, Del"
    -1813841 9 3/4L "D Wolff Phila " dial-"D. Wolff"
    -2501435 16S 15J 3FB "Jos. Schwartz/ Denver Col dial"Jos. L Schwartz"
    -2278790 16S 17J 3FB "5 Adjustments" "Treat & Eacret/ San Francisco" dial-"Treat & Eacret"
    -Cort
     
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    Berks/Birks I noticed I entered two similar watches each way. I still have most of these mvt's (all) so I will go back and check. -Cort
     
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    These have now been added to the list. Thanks for taking the time and trouble to bring them to our attention!

    Can you check 9 3/4 L - S/N 25174340 - Mvt Birks "Clive"
    That serial number seems to have an extra digit.

    Thanks again,
     
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    Kent, I found the Birks "Clive" and can correct the error. The correct number is 2517434. The last "0" was a screw..oops.
    two more:
    2661333-Shreve, Treat & Eacret (dial only) 9 3/4L
    2678962-Chas. Olson & Co./Minneapolis (dial and mv't) 9 3/4L
    -Cort
     
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    I've updated the list of Private Label Longines movements, which included your additions/correction.

    Perhaps in the future, it may be more useful to whoever may consult this list if you would include a few more details, if available. Maybe HC or OF, number of jewels and LS or PS.

    Thanks,
     
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    #11 bob.blais, Feb 18, 2014
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    Unknownmovement.jpg could this be one
    It is a private label from A.C. Hanger DesMoines Iowa
    16s 17j
     
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    attachment.jpg attachment.jpg I believe this to be a 17j size 48-50mm "Express Leader" OF GF, It is a private label watch AC Hanger Des Moines Iowa. I posted this in a different forum and that was the consensus that it is a longines movement. 1675642 which dates it to 1904 same name on dial, and the only other markings on movement are the name city and 17 jewels adjusted.
     
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    Hi bob.blais:

    Is the movement lever-set or pendant-set?

    Is the calibre number on the pillar plate, by the balance? If not the calibre number, what is marked there?

    What is the second line of the dial signature? It doesn't look like Des Moines. Does it match what's marked on the movement - its hard to tell since the flash reflection obliterates it.

    Is the 48-50mm the case diameter or the dial diameter (measured within the case rim, with the bezel off)?

    Thanks,
     
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    Just picked up a 16s htg. 17j"Express Leader" signed "A.L. Schlientz/ Shelby O." on the mvt. and just the name on the dial.-Cort
     
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    ...almost forgot, ser. # 1128745-Cort
     

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