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To be honest, I’m not even sure I have the cup washer tension right yet either so it may not be the last time it has to come back off!!
 

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To be honest, I’m not even sure I have the cup washer tension right yet either so it may not be the last time it has to come back off!!
You just need to move the snail forward enough that you can adjust the mesh of the minute wheel.
 

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Guys, what do you reckon my best option is here....the bell that came with the movement isn’t original to it, I discovered after that the original bracket base was still attached to the backplate. The pin to stop the bell moving on the replacement doesn’t reach the original hole.
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is drilling a new hole a bad idea? My only concern is the escapement pivot is quite close and the original hole....or two by the looks of it aren’t far away either! I potentially enlongate the hole in the new bracket?

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One other option would be to remove the pin on the new plate, bond the old plate to the new one....loctite maybe? I’d need a longer fixing screw mind you which might be a slight issue...
 
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Managed to get it on after a fair bit of dremmel work but there is about 1/2 a mm clearance :chuckling:
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I think I might take a little more off the bracket leg to give it some breathing room...
 

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Afternoon all, I have a slight spanner in the works. My hour hand has snapped :emoji_disappointed_relieved: It happened when I was trying to shine it up a bit for blueing.
by the looks of things it has been repaired in the past but it is incredibly thin. The points it has broken at this time, I doubt very much there is the possibility of soldering.
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What are my options here….I doubt soldering is possible tbh….I had considered loctite and paint Matt black forgetting about blueing.
Or someone mentioned a company that could laser cut a replacement?
 

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I’ve repaired a number of hands, gas welding. It’s not for everyone, but works,, and you can reblue the hand afterwards.

Gas welding lends itself nicely to repairing racks, bell stands, even arbors, …and most other steel components of antique clock movements.

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I’ve repaired a number of hands, gas welding. It’s not for everyone, but works,, and you can reblue the hand afterwards.

Gas welding lends itself nicely to repairing racks, bell stands, even arbors, …and most other steel components of antique clock movements.

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Interesting, I do have welding equipment Ralph but sadly it is a mig welder so a tad too heavy duty for this sort of thing!
My concern is the way this has broken, the 3 points are so thin and fragile. I find it slightly bizarre that the minute hand is a fine sturdy construction yet the hour hand is less than 1mm thick….weird!
 

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Interesting, I do have welding equipment Ralph but sadly it is a mig welder so a tad too heavy duty for this sort of thing!
My concern is the way this has broken, the 3 points are so thin and fragile. I find it slightly bizarre that the minute hand is a fine sturdy construction yet the hour hand is less than 1mm thick….weird!
It is usual to have the hour tapered like that in earlier clocks. You don't tough the hour, the minute hand is the one used to change the time so that has to be strong enough to be turned with a finger.
 

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It is usual to have the hour tapered like that in earlier clocks. You don't tough the hour, the minute hand is the one used to change the time so that has to be strong enough to be turned with a finger.
Ah ok, that makes sense. I wonder if perhaps it isn’t original in that case. I had a look on eBay to see if there might be a suitable replacement but there seemed to be none with a similar size or shape mounting hole.
 

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Afternoon all, I have a slight spanner in the works. My hour hand has snapped :emoji_disappointed_relieved: It happened when I was trying to shine it up a bit for blueing.
by the looks of things it has been repaired in the past but it is incredibly thin. The points it has broken at this time, I doubt very much there is the possibility of soldering.
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What are my options here….I doubt soldering is possible tbh….I had considered loctite and paint Matt black forgetting about blueing.
Or someone mentioned a company that could laser cut a replacement?
There are specialists in the UK who can make a new hand for you with the old one as a pattern. I had one made but I do not have contact details now (too long ago).
 
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If you look up awf restorations Andrew keeps a range of laser cut blanks. He will sell you just the hour hand. You need to hand finish it and blue it.
 
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There are specialists in the UK who can make a new hand for you with the old one as a pattern. I had one made but I do not have contact details now (too long ago).
Sounds like that may be the only feasible option.
 

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If you look up awf restorations Andrew keeps a range of laser cut blanks. He will sell you just the hour hand. You need to hand finish it and blue it.
Brilliant, thank you for that, I will get in touch with him……much appreciated.
 

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