Lfs grandfather clock

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  1. s91five0

    s91five0 Registered User

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  2. bruce linde

    bruce linde Technical Admin

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    i don't know much about LFS clocks, but the first thing i would try is using the advanced search box in the upper right of this page and searching the site for LFS.

    or, you can use the power search / google method... just search google but specify this site, i.e.:

    LFS grandfather clock site:mb.nawcc.org

    i prefer the second method, and typically open each of the search results in a new tab or window so when i close them i still have the search results.

    nice looking clock, by the way...
     
  3. JTD

    JTD Registered User

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    LFS stands for Lorenz Furtwängler Söhne, a well-known German clock maker in Furtwangen. The company had a long history, founded in 1836 and dissolved in 1936. They made good quality clocks but due to management problems and the decline in sales, they could not continue.

    You don't show us the LFS logo, but if you could post a photo of it, it would help to date the clock, as different styles of logo were registered at different times.

    The clock is quite attractive, at least to my eye, although I wonder a little about the top piece. Is it all one piece?

    Until we see the logo and can (maybe) date you clock more exactly, I would put it a the first quarter of 20th century and probably before WW1.

    JTD
     
  4. s91five0

    s91five0 Registered User

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    s91five0 Registered User

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    Hello, yes it is one piece
     
  6. JTD

    JTD Registered User

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    Well, it's really very hard to see, but I think this is the mark registered in either 1914 or 1919 (mikrolisk says 1914, the 'Lexikon der Deutschen Uhrenindustrie' says 1919). Maybe when you take the movement out of the case you can post a clearer photo and we might be able to be more definite.

    JTD
     
  7. Tatyana

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    Hi all!
    s91five0, I assume Your clock made circa 1900, a later movement produced after 1903 year. Number #3195 + patent 142125 (29 june 1903).
    BR, Tatyana
     
  8. JTD

    JTD Registered User

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    Yes, this is the mark registered 1914 (or 1919, depending where you look!). But until we can see the back of the movement we don't know if the patent number is there, nor what the serial number is.

    JTD
     
  9. s91five0

    s91five0 Registered User

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    The serial number is 20 and the gear with LFS. This clock was given to me and don't wanna mess with the movement. Here's one more pic. You can see the zero and in front of the zero is a 2. The LFS is in fancy lettering. View attachment 350267
     
  10. s91five0

    s91five0 Registered User

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    Mine just has the LFS IN A GEAR CIRCLE and the serial number below says 20
     
  11. s91five0

    s91five0 Registered User

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    Hello there, my back of the movement doesn't look like yours. It has the LFS logo and below that is the number 20.
     
  12. Tinker Dwight

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    You will need to do something about the gong laying on the movement.
    These clocks also needs periodic cleaning and oiling. Things like removing the pendulum and weights
    ( check which is heavier. They are often different ) and sliding the movement out
    can often save the cost of a house trip to remove and install the movement.
    It is a lovely clock but running and maintaining them is no a minor issue. As a minimum,
    you need to learn how to set the beat.
    I don't know how you dealt with moving but typically the weights and pendulum
    are removed. The chains secured and often the movement removed.
    There is often a pendulum leader that needs to be unattached to avoid damaging
    the suspension spring. This depends on if it is a one piece pendulum rod.
    These are all things you'd need to do to safely move the clock.
    These older movement are heavy and care must be taken if removing
    so they don't fall when loosened.
    Tinker Dwight
     
  13. s91five0

    s91five0 Registered User

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    Hello there, that is a mirror there. Had to use it to take pic. So when you look at it the letters are backwards. Everything works great with this clock. I moved the clock here to my house with no problems, Took off the pendulum and weights. tied the chains together so they wouldn't come off. It was moved very carefully. I love this clock!!
     
  14. JTD

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    Sorry, this picture is no better than the others - still can't really see the logo. Both the marks have LFS in 'fancy lettering' inside a wheel, but it is the design of the wheel and the letters that tell us the date.

    I doubt if 20 is the serial number, although I suppose it could be. I've never seen an LFS serial that low, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be.

    Anyway, you will have to move the movement forward at some point, because as Tinker Dwight says, it is scrunched up against the gong and it will never go like that.

    It is a nice clock and well worth putting in order, so if you are nervous about doing anything to it yourself, try to find a reputable clock repairer and let him help you. If you can't find one (you don't mention where you are situated), then contact your local NAWCC chapter (there are instructions on how to find the various chapters at the head of the forum) and ask them. They will surely be able to advise you.

    JTD
     
  15. s91five0

    s91five0 Registered User

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    Thanks so much for your input. I will try to get a better pic. Guess I have to get my hands dirty!! lolol, also it might not be the serial # but it does say 20 under the LFS symbol.
     
  16. Tatyana

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    I saw movements LFS with low numbers 1 (grandfather clock) and 2 (wall clock).
    BR, Tatyana
     
  17. JTD

    JTD Registered User

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    Well maybe they are serial numbers but I personally don't think so. Maybe model numbers, factory i/d? I don't know, it just doesn't feel right (and to have the first and second clocks seems to be a marvellous coincidence!)

    JTD
     
  18. s91five0

    s91five0 Registered User

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    That's what my symbol looks like with the LFS just like the pic you have and right below that the #20.

    - - - Updated - - -

    I'm looking at it now to take the movement out.
     
  19. Feather

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  20. Tatyana

    Tatyana Registered User

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    Hi all!
    I'll add another similar clock with a low number of movement.
    BR, Tatyana
     
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