Please ID this Clock German $ Lenzkirch mantle clock

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  1. Salsagev

    Salsagev Registered User

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    This clock is marble and has gold hands in it. There is a engraving on numerals consisting of 110299. Any information on it. some said the movement is hard to sell. Why? Thanks.
     
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    Great looking clock. Wish i had one by that maker.
     
  4. new2clocks

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    According to the latest available information on Lenzkirch serial numbers, your clock was made in 1896.

    I have no idea why anyone would say the "movement is hard to sell". Lenzkirch was one of the premier German clock makers of the late 1800s / early 1900s.

    Can you post a photo of the complete case? If you don't mind me asking, what did you pay for it?

    Regards.
     
  5. Salsagev

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    I paid 60 bucks for it. I hope it’s worth more. Is lenzkirch very famous?

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  6. Salsagev

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    I meant somebody said the case is hard to sell.
     
  7. Kevin W.

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    Maybe someone meant, mantel clocks are harder to sell?
     
  8. JTD

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    Lenzkirch is a well respected German maker, in business from 1851 to 1926. This clock is a marriage - that means the movement did not start out life in this case.

    Nobody said the movement was hard to sell, but the fact that the movement and the case do not belong together makes it less desirable. Also the art deco (possibly French) case is not to everyone's taste, which is why you were told that it might be hard to sell.

    But for $60 you got a nice clock (if it's working) and you could probably sell the movement by itself and get your money back and perhaps a bit more.

    JTD
     
  9. Salsagev

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    How do I date the case?
     
  10. JTD

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    By its appearance. Probably 1925-35.

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  11. Ticktocktime100

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    I said that in my earlier reply. The case is not original to the movement, and marble cases are heavy and not very fashionable, therefore they can be very difficult to sell.
     
  12. Salsagev

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    In my opinion, I think marble resembles luxury. Over plastic or vinyl.
     
  13. Ticktocktime100

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    You're right in that it is of course a noble material, I'm merely making the point that the case is not original to the movement and that the present market has been unkind to marble clocks, despite their quality.
     
  14. JTD

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    Yes, and especially unkind to these art deco designs. In time they may become more popular - taste seems to go in cycles.

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  15. Salsagev

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    Well I’m in luck because I wasn’t planning to sell these for a long time. But one thing that’s confusing me is what would a 1890 be doing in a Art Deco case? Where would the movement be before?
     
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    If you peruse through this thread, which is dedicated to Lenzkirch clocks, you may see your movement, or a similar movement, and see what kind of cases your movement would have resided.

    Post your Lenzkirch clocks here.

    Regards.
     
  17. JTD

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    As I think has been said before, it is what is called a 'marriage'. Someone put the older Lenzkirch movement in a more modern marble case, which may be French.

    The movement started life in a Lenzkirch clock. No one can say for sure which one, but new2clocks suggestion is a good start.

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  18. Salsagev

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    I have a feeling that thus movement was made for a case like this.
     
  19. JTD

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    Well, I am sure it wasn't.

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  20. Salsagev

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    Were there any clock like this made for this movement?
     
  21. JTD

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    NO, your clock has an art deco type marble case and the movement is much older.

    Your movement came from a clock which was an entirely different style made in an entirely different age. Look at the clocks in the link you were given by new2clocks.

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  22. D.th.munroe

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    I do hope these art deco ones cycle up at some point I have close to 100 of them on my porch.
     
  23. Salsagev

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    A 100? Can I have a picture?
     
  24. Salsagev

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    Would I consider this clock as a lenzkirch?
     
  25. D.th.munroe

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    It's a horrible mess but I can take a picture when I get home.
    I'll agree with most, I'm pretty certain the case is not a lenzkirch the majority of mine are 1 day pin pallet movements and I'm pretty sure all French.
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  26. JTD

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    NO, as has been said before, it is a 'marriage'. A Lenzkirch movement in a newer case.

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  27. D.th.munroe

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    You can see at least 30 in this pic.

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  28. Salsagev

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    Wow, that’s amazing. Your shelf is falling down though. That must be very valuable. Very nice collection but why aren’t they on your display shelf.
     
  29. Salsagev

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    Where you get them?
     
  30. D.th.munroe

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    I got them the way they are, most need a bit of work or cleaning.
    I bought an old clockmakers estate and to buy and take all the tools, I had to take all the 100s of clocks, and boxes of parts good and bad.
     
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