Lenzkirch mantel clock and pedestal

[aesellitto]

Just bought this clock today. Don't know much about it and cannot find any info on it. The movement number is 802,000 which dates it to the 1880s . Looks like the symphonic clocks but I see no music box or any traces of a music box. Any help or ideas of what I have would be great. Thanks

 

[Walt Wallgren]

Beautiful clock to be sure. If you could post some pictures of the movement it might help. If there is a door on the rear of the pedestal, you could add pix of that as well.

Again, nice clock,
Walt

 

[aesellitto]

Here is a link to my flicker account. Hopefully this will help identify it better. https://www.flickr.com/photos/144906776@N07/shares/04EC4w

 

[Walt Wallgren]

Hi Bill,

Nice looking Lenzie. Looks like yours dates to the late 80's. I also don't see any evidence of musical attachment. I believe it was just supposed to look pretty sitting on the pedestal.

It would be nice if you could post your pictures directly on the forum. Pictures posted to other sites have a tendency to go away and down the road people looking at older posts loose the ability to look at the original pictures. if you need help, you can find posting instructions here:


https://mb.nawcc.org/showthread.php?134317-How-to-Add-a-Picture-from-your-PC-or-Laptop


Again, really nice clock. thanks for sharing it with us.
Walt

 

[aesellitto]

Thank you for the response. I was hoping for some more feedback on the clock. Is this a rare clock? I have been searching now for two days and have not found a similar clock to it. That is unless it was a symphonic lower case. Was it unusual for lenzkirch to make a matching lower pedestal?

 

[aesellitto]

I must say that as a member of the NAWCC that I am very disappointed with the lack of responses to my post asking for any information on this clock. Out of the 100 plus views i had one response (thank you Walt, I do appreciate it ). I constantly hear that interest in clocks is fading and we need to attract new and younger members. If you can't post a clock to the thousands of professionals and collectors around the globe and learn more about your clock then the collecting of these beautiful time pieces surely is doomed.

 

[Walt Wallgren]

HI Bill,

I understand your frustration. I have submitted posts that seemed to be under serviced as well. From the stats below, although there have been over 100 views, there have only been 27 people who have view the thread. I would have expected more info from 27 people and yet it hasn't happened.

When I try to look at why, I have to start with the lack of pictures. A lot of the guys, and gals, here are quite busy. And as such, when the literally pop in for a quick look, their eyes are drawn to posts with a good supply of pictures. If the number of picts is lacking they go on to the next one. I know because i do this myself at times and I probably have lost good opportunities for learning by doing so, but the truth is I do.

In addition to having your pictures saved to the board for the future, posting here will increase the interest in your post. I love Lenzkirch clocks, have a few myself, and was interested in your question and premise. That is why I replied in the first place. I did go to your flicker account and looked at your pictures, which were pretty good pictures, I might add. The thing is, if your clock was a Junghans, or a Sessions, I might not take the time to go look at them because these are not brands I am currently highly interested in. That is not to say I don't like them or think they are not worthwhile clocks to collect and study, that is just not where my head is right now.

However, if there were more than 1 picture that I could look at WITHOUT leaving the board, I might take a little more time to look at the post and see if I could add anything or even study the thread to learn something for myself. It all depends on how busy or lazy I am at the moment. I might get back to look at a post I passed over again or maybe not. Unfortunately, that is the reality of the situation.

I absolutely agree with you that we need to attract new members. To that end, I talk about the clocks I love wherever I go, and I travel quite a bit. I also have TONS of pictures on my cell phone that I can show at a moments notice, and I do.

Hang in there. Keep loving clocks. Keep asking questions. Share what you can when you can. It will get better.

Walt

 

[JTD]

It is a very nice clock and one I would love to have, although it may not be to everyone's taste.

However, I don't quite know what information you are looking for. It is a Lenzkirch mantel/bracket clock, the date of which you have already established, and it is mounted on a pedestal. Quite a number of clock manufacturers did this - they put one of their regular clocks on a pedestal and made it into a different model. I had a large Kienzle Vienna-style regulator which Kienzle had mounted on a pedestal, given a bigger top piece and lo and behold, a long case clock was born!

Your clock seems to be much the same thing - a good bracket clock which was mounted on a nice pedestal and so a different style was evolved. Not quite sure how tall it is, but it seems to have become a semi-hall clock.

The only actual question that you seem to have asked is 'Is it rare?'. Rare seems to mean different things to different people, so I always hesitate to say something is 'rare'. The clock itself looks like a Lenzkirch clock of general production, the pedestal is more unusual. But perhaps a lot of people threw the pedestal out over the years, as tastes and styles changed, so I would say having its pedestal makes it less common, but rare, hmm, I don't know.

Personally, I like it very much but I think the wood looks very dry and could do with a good waxing. (That may just be the light in the photos).

I am not sure if any of this is what you wanted to hear, but hope it helps a little.

JTD

 

[LenzkirchFan]

I have to believe that it had a music box in it at one time. The case is definitely the same style of case. It may not have had the machine that played the large metal disks but it may have had the music box movement. However, I do not see a hole in the side for a winding crank. I think that it would be very unusual to be in that type case and not have music. Someone may not have wanted to spend the money and just ordered what you have and just let people believe that it was an expensive music clock! I would love to have it just like it is though. Steve

 

[binman]

More pictures would be helpful, the photo you have taken isn't very good, I cannot even make out the dial detail, some good close up photos,showing the dial, movement, also inside the cabinet below,the dial from that distance looks very plain, is it a ting tan, does it strike the hours only,Does it keep good time over a month, what size is the case, all these little things will draw members interest to it. Don't get miffed because you have rushed to post it, without giving all the details, even if members cannot help you as to its history, they might indicate that it's a good buy. Not every body gets a lot of replies, I've posted clocks and watches without more than one or two responses but I don't get upset about it.