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[Ajay1]

I acquired this clock recently and tried to do a bit of research on it. Nothing popped up until I thought about looking through the 'Horolovar Collection' book and there it was.
So now I know it's a Juf but how do you describe this style of clock? Because of the helmet, does it fall into the 'Louvre' category? The Serial Number is 59256 so when would it have been manufactured? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Al

 

[Dells]

That’s unusual very nice

 

[KurtinSA]

Appears to be plate 1047 in the repair guide. It also appears in the 1910 Jahres Uhr catalog compilation of clocks. It's No 233 in the book. Looks like the date is prior to 1910.

Kurt

 

[Schatznut]

Al, I've seen similar clocks described as "bandstand clocks". That's a real beauty!

 

[Ingulphus]

It appears that whoever last disassembled the movement got the screws and pins backward - I think that on these large dial clocks, the screws were used on the back plate and the pins on the front. You can see a 'shadow' in the brass where the washers were originally. Would the groove for the dome accept a standard diameter (5.5"), or do you think the original dome was larger?

Best regards,

Mark

 

[KurtinSA]

Mark, good eye. I don't have any large dial JUFs, but all of my JUFs, which include 3 from 1911-1913, have pins on the back plate. I can see that on my smaller dial JUFs, it does look better with the screws on the front plate as they are visible. So, I wonder?

Kurt

 

[Ajay1]

Thanks for your comments and suggestions. The point you've made regarding the plate screws Mark is quite obvious - now. I stripped and cleaned the movement and reassembled as normal assuming the marks were made by the head of the pins when the other side was screwed up. Since the front is not visible, it seems logical to hide the pins which are not that photogenic. One point though is that the Horolovar Collection book shows, faintly, no screws on the back.
Al

 

[Ajay1]

Sorry Mark. I forgot to mention that the dome is 6" dia. I'm on the hunt for one of those because what came with it was a plastic flat top creation.
Regards, Al

 

[GRZESIEK]

JF and Kienzle used the same housings

 

[Ajay1]

Thanks for your input 'Grzesiek'. Two very nice examples. Are the spring guards the same?

 

[GRZESIEK]

Thanks for your input 'Grzesiek'. Two very nice examples. Are the spring guards the same?

Not the same, Kienzle has 2 rings

 

[GRZESIEK]

Clocks with a large dial have bolts on the rear plate and it is very logical
I have several such clocks and all have bolts on the back

 

[Ajay1]

Thanks again 'GRZESIEK' for that additional information
Al