Lady Franklin 0size:

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  1. PapaLouies

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    Regards, PL
     
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  2. musicguy

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    I looks like a nice little Illinois, that's my guess


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  3. PapaLouies

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    If you need to guess, I would say you should research Illinois watches.
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    In Ehrhardt and Meggars "American Pocket Watches" it is listed as a 0 size Illinois. Grade 39 model 2 with supposedly 800 made.
     
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    It was an expression, very nice little sparse two star watch.


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  6. John Cote

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    I am not absolutely sure but I am pretty sure that this PL was for Oskamp Nolting in Cincinnati as the Lady's version of the Benjamin Franklin.
     
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  7. Nathan Moore

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    Absolutely correct.

    The "Lady Franklin" name was originally registered for trademark July 19, 1910 by Charles A. Nolting (The Oskamp Nolting Company). The documentation indicates usage commencing December 2, 1909. The "Benjamin Franklin" name was registered at the same time.

    Trademark Watch Movement Lady Franklin by Oskamp Nolting Co Issued Jul 19, 1910

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  8. PapaLouies

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    Lady Franklin, 2254916, O-size, HC, 17J, ca. 1910, is listed in the Illinois Watch Co. Book by Meggers-Ehrhardt in the Serial Number Section as O-size, P-set, HC, 17J, Model 2, Grade 39.
    Listed on page 235 Private Label under Benjamin Franklin U.S.A. as (OS-17J-HN2P-AT-"37") (Lady Franklin) (EA500).
    And listed on page 175 under Grade "39" as 17J-HN2P-X-770- "39" (EA500A).
    As mentioned in the past by Jeff there are a good deal of errors in this publication by Meggers-Ehrhardt.
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    The Lady Franklin as described in this 1917 ad for Oskap-Nolting Co. differs from my Lady Franklin.
    My screws and regulator are not gilded. My hairspring may be Phillips Overcoil and my balance wheel has 2 platinum mean-time screws.
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