Kroeber Black Mantle, need help.

Willie X

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I'm hoping someone can tell me who made this movement (curiosity) and I also need the particulars on the pendulum (missing). The suspension spring is a bodge, made from aluminum ...

The movement has similarities with both New Haven and S-T. I'm guessing New Haven. Polished plates, pretty nice, needs 4 bushings and has a broken click (snapped in half).

Thanks in advance, Willie X

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Willie X

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There's a photo floating around here somewhere. This suspension spring is about halfway between a beer can and aluminum foil ... Ha
 

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I found this mention on the clockhistory.com site-
"P&B supplied some clock movements (if not complete alarm clocks) to Florence Kroeber, although Kroeber was in business earlier than P&B, so thus necessarily used movements from other sources as well. I have seen movements made by both P&B and the Jerome or New Haven companies with plates stamped "F. KROEBER N. Y.", or its equivalent, so the Kroeber stamp does not necessarily indicate that Kroeber was the actual manufacturer." Link to article
-Jeff
 

Willie X

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Jeff,
That's a very similar one made by Phelps & Bartholomew. I will check and see if the one I have had any provision for the "captured pendulum" contraption. Willie
 

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Found movement & clocks it was used in, in Trans' Kroeber Clocks book. Says it was made by Seth Thomas.

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That's a very similar one made by Phelps & Bartholomew.
Willie

I was reading more into the latter part of the quote that confirms your suspicion that it was a Jerome/ New Haven movement, but it seems TBucket has made a more compelling case for it being made by Seth Thomas.
-Jeff
 

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Kroeber made lots of animated novelty clocks. Probably not so many large ones.
 

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Cool. Were all of their movements built by other companies?
 
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