Please ID this Clock American $ Kitchen clock

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  1. Salsagev

    Salsagev Registered User

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    I see a partial label on the back. Can anybody depict this? Thanks.

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  2. Steven Thornberry

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    So far as I can tell from your pictures, your clock appears to be the Belmont, made by Waterbury. Yours has an alarm, which would have been an option, and it is missing the topmost part. The following catalogue illustration comes from Tran Duy Ly's book on Waterbury clocks, vol. 1.

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  3. Salsagev

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    Could I buy this top? So about 150 for value sounds good? That’s 5.35 inflated today.
     
  4. JTD

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    No, but a skilled woodworker could make one. Wouldn't be exact but near enough. Not worth the trouble for this clock in my opinion.

    You can't assess value today by the original price, and your clock is broken.

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  5. lpbp

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    Unfortunately, like other clocks the value on these has plummeted. I have seen perfect examples in running condition go for that price, or even less.
     
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    I see running kitchen clocks go for under 30 dollars.
     
  8. Salsagev

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    Sad to hear
     
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  9. JTD

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    I have just sold at auction a fully working Gilbert (model Altai) kitchen clock. Good condition, fully working time and alarm, perfect case and glass and original pendulum. Result : $37, and then I had to pay the auction fees.

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  10. Salsagev

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    Was it a private auction? For some reason, I find auctions result in lower prices than buy it now in some circumstances.
     
  11. JTD

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    No, it wasn't a private auction. A public auction in a local auction rooms.

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  12. Kevin W.

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    I bought a working steeple clock about 4 years ago, for under 10 dollars, sorry i went off the subject of the post.
     
  13. Salsagev

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    Sounds like a good deal. But still sad.
     
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    Last kitchen clock I bought, several years ago, I gave $50 for it. Probly can't get that for it today. Too bad; it's a very nice clock. Maybe if I hold it for a long time it will be worth more; :rolleyes:
     
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    When I started collecting in the 70's as a teenager I watched kitchen clocks sell for up to $300. One of my early wants was a mirror side. I just really like those but they were always around $300 or even more. I bought the Gilbert Occidental last year for Less than $70 in great shape. Ogees used to be around $200 - 250. You can't even give one away today. There's a sad joke about Ogee clocks. As most of you know it takes its name from the shape of the molding but the joke is you see one and say "Ogee, I have ten of those in the attic." I hope that another generation will mature and appreciate these beautiful pieces of history and creativity. Until that time we are the guardians lest they be gone and no one will remember. I spend time and money saving and restoring clocks that aren't worth the effort put into them in money but as a labor of love they are priceless.

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    Nicer than a Korean clock? What’s wrong with ogres? Why don’t people like them? I don’t know. Maybe this generation is moving on. My theory is that these antiques are for the past and not now. I heard people shop less at antiques.
     
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    Ogee's are early, mainly American clocks from the 1840's to around the 1910's. Most were weight driven and quite noisy. Antiques are from the past and it's our duty to preserve and learn from. Moving on sounds like an excuse to forget.
     
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    Well I can beat your ten in the attic, I have twice that many in my clock room, and another dozen or so in my storage area. What great variety, thirty hour eight day weight and spring, full size and small, double door and single door eight days, wooden movement, external alarms and weight driven ones. Others that are mistakenly called OG's, bevel cases,band cases, column and cornice. And don't forget about OG's and OOG's.
     
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    Looks like an OOG.
     
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    Some people refer to an ogee with a rounded boarder as an "oogee", pronounced oh-ogee. I call them ogees.

    What makes this ogee better is that I believe it is a double door 8 day model. I suspect labelled Jerome or New Haven. No label shown, dimensions provided (would be taller than a 30 hour) and overall fragmentary info as per typical. Don't ask me what I mean. There's a sections on the Forums about how to ask a good question and suggestions for the information you should provide when asking a question. Given your penchant, I suggest you read them.

    If an 8 day model, more desirable than the more typical 30 hours.

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    Yes it is a Jerome. I can post more pictures, dimension, “fragmentary information per as per typical” later. I wasn’t exactly seeking information about it just yet, but I can post a new thread. Thanks.
     
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    An OOG, in addition to an s curve on the case, also has a a outer edge convex round molding, and a concave molding on the door, I.E., OOG.
     
  27. Salsagev

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    It’s the only ogee I have so I’m glad is nicer.
     
  28. Kevin W.

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    I have a 8 day ogee clock, its a keeper. And i also have a upside down ogee movement in a clock case. Unfortunately not the original case.
     

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