Kienzle movement, What date and case?

[pelops]

I stumbled across this clock movement on a Bulgarian jumble stall this morning. I bought it just for the porcelain dial and hands but on getting home have found it to be fully wound and working, though very dirty. I believe its Kienzle, with the horseshoe star mark, serial number 1124730.
Would anyone know what type of case it should be in and a rough date?
It has a removable gong bracket /support, which must have attached to the cabinet, strikes on the hour and half, has an advance lever to move the strike forward every half hour (I'm afraid I don't know the technical term. Dead chuffed, as it cost me less than the equivalent of $5. Thanks in advance.

 

[KurtinSA]

Welcome to the forum! The mikrolisk database suggests that logo is for Konkurrenz brand which is a Carl Werner clock. Probably 1900 give or take a number of years.

Kurt

 

[pelops]

Thanks Kurt. I'm hoping that I might be able to find a case for it. Do you have any idea what length of pendulum it would need and are they all a standard length?

 

[KurtinSA]

Others will know. Often there is a stamp of "PXX" on the back plate which is the length in centimeters. You can try searching the forum for "Konkurrenz" to see what might be out there.

Kurt

 

[Tatyana]

Thanks Kurt. I'm hoping that I might be able to find a case for it. Do you have any idea what length of pendulum it would need and are they all a standard length?

If you look closely, there are numbers 124 / 30 on the back wall of the movement..
This means that the length of the pendulum is 30 centimeters.124 - the number of movements of the pendulum.

More often Werner movements with the marking 104 / 42.



Regards
Tatyana

 

[pelops]

Thanks Tayana. My mistake, I thought the / was a 7 when I posted. It gives me an idea what to look out for.

Incidentally I've discovered that the movement wasn't as dirty as I'd originally thought. I've just dusted the mechanism with a soft brush and wiped over the dial with some glass cleaner and its come up quite well.

 

[Tatyana]

Thanks Tayana. My mistake, I thought the / was a 7 when I posted. It gives me an idea what to look out for.

Incidentally I've discovered that the movement wasn't as dirty as I'd originally thought. I've just dusted the mechanism with a soft brush and wiped over the dial with some glass cleaner and its come up quite well.

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Catalog 1905 Часовой форум Watch.ru - Показать сообщение отдельно - Каталог Carl Werner 1905 год
Look for a case for this movement in the topic "Half regulators"

 

[pelops]

Catalog 1905 Часовой форум Watch.ru - Показать сообщение отдельно - Каталог Carl Werner 1905 год
Look for a case for this movement in the topic "Half regulators"

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Thanks Tatyana, that's a great help. I'm in Bulgaria and should be able to find one here. There were a couple at the same market but complete with mechanism. I'm sure if I keep my eyes open I'll find a case.