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Kienzle Lackschilduhr: When does it date from?

sportell

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We bought this clock from someone locally. I doubt it has much value and quite frankly, I just like it. We live in the Black Forest in an older house, so we are decorating it a little more old-fashioned. I am incredibly curious just how old this clock is. The seller had no information. The brand is Kienzle. I saw in this forum someone posted a collection of the Kienzle logos. https://mb.nawcc.org/threads/kienzle-table-clock-for-identification.120410/ Difficult to see in this image, but our version is the winged clock with the name Kienzle over it. The logo almost looks 1920s Bauhaus / Art Deco style. Does anyone have a clue when this was made? Or if its probably just a later reproduction? Thanks!


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new2clocks

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Welcome to the forum.

Does anyone have a clue when this was made?
The logo on the dial is difficult to see, even with magnification, but it appears to be the "stubby winged with Kienzle written on top" trademark, which was registered by Kienzle in 1923, I believe. So it is safe to say that your clock is no older than 1923.

Or if its probably just a later reproduction?
I doubt it, although I must say I have not seen this type of Kienzle. Kienzle were one of the most prolific clockmakers for many years.

Is there any chance we can see a picture of the movement?

Regards.
 
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Information I've seen is that Kienzle was in business from 1907-1929...maybe that was only on the 400-day side. If the logo mentioned was first used in 1923 and Kienzle only lasted until 1929, that narrows the date of the clock down somewhat.

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Information I've seen is that Kienzle was in business from 1907-1929...maybe that was only on the 400-day side. If the logo mentioned was first used in 1923 and Kienzle only lasted until 1929, that narrows the date of the clock down somewhat.

Kurt
Kienzle was in business long before 1907 and long after 1929. :)

For example, one patent was granted to Schlenker and Kienzle in 1892. Schlenker and Kienzle is the company we refer to as just Kienzle.

I will check to see the years of existence. If someone has access to the Lexikon, perhaps they can confirm the years Kienzle was in existence.

Regards.
 
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sportell

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Is there any chance we can see a picture of the movement?

Regards.
Thanks for the welcome. Here are two side view photos. My husband has a video I can upload tonight. Unlike many of the clocks I've seen posted on this forum, I cannot easily get into the works. The wooden frame separating sections, are nailed in place. My husband thinks the weights could be replacements, as I've never seen them painted and with a raised design before. Then again, if they are the originals, it should narrow down the clock's provenance, since it is uncommon.

This type of clock is very specific to the Black Forest. I'd never seen them in America and in other areas of Germany I lived in. However, they are very common in this region.

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Hi,

Yes, your husband is correct - the weights are indeed replacements, but from the same type of clock, just a later example from the 1970’s or so.

Regards.
 
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