Japanese manufacturer?

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  1. Robert Manke

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    This clock has a clearly identifiable Meiji movement. Can anyone help with the trademark on the dial?
     
  2. new2clocks

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    The trademark appears to be that of Yoshida.

    Regards.
     
  3. Robert Manke

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    Thank you. I guess I need to learn more about Yoshida's history.
     
  4. JTD

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    I agree - it's a Yoshida trade mark. But I don't think the hands are original.

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  5. Walt Wallgren

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    I went to the Japanese trademark list here: Alpha Logos and while it is similar to the Yoshida trade mark, if you look below the Yoshida, you will see Shin-Toyo. I believe that is a little closer to what is on the face of the clock. That said, who knows what the relationship might have been between those 2 companies.

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  6. JTD

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    I do not think the Shin-Toyo mark is likely to be yours. The words 'trade mark' are present on your dial and on the Yoshida mark, while they are missing in the Shin-Toyo mark. Neither the Shin-Toyo nor the Yoshida shield outline exactly match yours, but I believe the Yoshida pattern to be closest.

    That, and the words Trade Mark, still lead me to think your mark is that of Yoshida, but of course I may be wrong.

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    I agree with JTD. Only the "C" in the Shin-Toyo trademark is similar to the OP's trademark - otherwise everything points to Yoshida.

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  8. Robert Manke

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    JTD, Thank you. What do you think the hands should look like and why?
     
  9. Robert Manke

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    I wondered the same thing. Looks like there is much to learn about the Japanese clock makers.
     
  10. Robert Manke

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    I was also leaning the same way when I looked at the trademarks. I thought I'd see if someone had a definite input. I appreciate all the help.

    Regards
     
  11. new2clocks

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    Unfortunately, we do not have a great deal of knowledge of Japanese clocks (or Korean clocks) as we do American, German, French and U.K. clocks.

    Charles Davis is the one contributor who has the most knowledge, but Charles does not post much anymore.

    In the 15 years that I have frequented this board, I believe only one person from Japan has contributed either a question or response.

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  12. JTD

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    The style of hands is quite wrong for this type of clock and period. The originals would have been much plainer, possibly spades. The hands you have look like modern laser-cut hands that might suit an antique bracket clock.

    JTD
     
  13. Robert Manke

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    Thanks for the input.
     

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