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Japanese Clock Identity

Sojourner

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Hello All, I am new to the NAWCC and have already gleaned a boatload of information in following previous streams of years past. Only of late have I taken a greater interest in my small collection of clocks. So, I've several that I've purchased over the years but do not know some of the makers. I purchased this wall clock in Shanghai in 2003. Written on the glass is "YOKAMAKI HOKEN." The porcelain dial has the "S" enclosed by a diamond and circle (Seikosha Trademark?). Found on the spiral gong base plate are the somewhat illegible words "IWATI (or OWATI) CLOCK CO." Then engraved on the case are the words "Trade Mark," with a rearing horse on what appears to be a globe. Is this a Seikosha Clock? Is this a compilation of many different clocks (not uncommon in China antique dens)? And finally can we date it?

The Japanese had a large contingent in the International quarter in Shanghai in the 1920's. Then Japan occupied Shanghai in 1937.

Pls note the photos:

Shanghai Wall Clock.jpg Open Case.jpg Owat Clock Co.jpg Trade Mark Horse on Globe.jpg
 

new2clocks

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Found on the spiral gong base plate are the somewhat illegible words "IWATI (or OWATI) CLOCK CO."
The trademark on the movement (a horse on a globe) looks similar to the TM of Owari:

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I suspect the writing on the gong plate is the "Owari Clock Company".

The porcelain dial has the "S" enclosed by a diamond and circle
Can you provide a better picture of this trademark?

And, welcome to the forum!

Regards.
 

Ticktocktime100

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Hi,

Yes, the firm in question is indeed Owari (not Owati) founded in 1896 in Nagoya Japan. I would place your clock around 1910. I recall reading somewhere (was it on the now defunct website of the late Charles E. Davis?) that Owari was taken over by Seikosha at some point (which might explain the "S" on the dial?), but others will confirm wether this is accurate or not. What is certain is that Owari ceased to operate when the market for their mechanical clocks declined.

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Sojourner

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The trademark on the movement (a horse on a globe) looks similar to the TM of Owari:

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I suspect the writing on the gong plate is the "Owari Clock Company".



Can you provide a better picture of this trademark?

And, welcome to the forum!

Regards.
Thanks new2clocks and ticktocktime100 for your quick reply and enlightening info. I see now the OWARI CLOCK CO. is obvious when you know what you're looking for. Pls see pic of the dial with TM. Genuinely grateful, Mike

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new2clocks

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Thanks new2clocks and ticktocktime100 for your quick reply and enlightening info. I see now the OWARI CLOCK CO. is obvious when you know what you're looking for. Pls see pic of the dial with TM. Genuinely grateful, Mike

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Mike, the trademark on your dial is that of Seikosha.

We have seen this combination (Seikosha trademark on the dial and Owari trademark on the movement) before:

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So, perhaps as Ticktocktime recalled, there was some type of acquisition of Owari by Seikosha or some type of collaboration between the two companies and your clock could be original.

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Sojourner

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Thanks again, continuing to learn and enjoy the education.
Mike
 

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