James Ellicot London

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  1. myk

    myk Registered User

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    Hi everyone.
    I looking for information about this pocket watch
    Thank you

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  2. gmorse

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    Hi myk,

    Well, the case hallmarks aren't English and the movement probably isn't either. Ellicott was a well-known London firm whose name was used on fakes and I suspect that's what you have here.

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    Graham
     
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    these some variants found on a list of fake Elicot / Ecklicot / Ellicott.
    the closing of the dust cover is also unusual for an English watch
    regards enrico
     
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  4. gmorse

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    Hi Enrico,

    As are the steel 'endstone' in the balance cock, the 'square-ish' pillars and the tapered case bolt.

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    Graham
     
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    I like the face scribed on the balance cock. I feel I should know this dude. Looks gargoylish.
     
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    Just a grotesque, throw back to earlier times.
     
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  7. gmorse

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    Hi myk,

    Actually, as these fakes go, this is rather better than many I've seen. The fakers have made a real effort to duplicate an English watch of the period, they just didn't get the details quite right, but this probably wasn't aimed primarily at the UK market.

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    Graham
     
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  8. myk

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    Moscow 1930 repair by Rozenson B

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  9. John Matthews

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    I am particularly interested in the cap. It appears to have been well made, and the method of securing it well engineered. If possible can you provide a photograph of the inside please.

    John
     
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  10. myk

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    Here you are

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  11. John Matthews

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    Myk - thanks for these photographs - which are good to see.

    Sorry, I did not express myself very clearly. Can you please post a photograph of the underside of the cap - it will be very interesting to see if there are any marks.

    John
     
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    I think he was talking about the dust cap.
     
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  13. myk

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    cap

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