Ithaca Grandfather.. New Member

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  1. Allyn Briggs

    Allyn Briggs New Member

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    Trying to repace a movement for an Ithica grandfather clock.
    It is actually a spring wound not weight driven.
    37" from the cannon shaft to the center of the pendulum.
    3 1/8" between spring arbors.
    Hoping to find a simular movement.
    I was doing some research online, and found that Gilbert made the movements.
    I have a pic, Thank You for your help.
    Movement is totally wore out on the strike side.






     

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  2. Willie X

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    Re: Ithica Grandfather.. New Member

    Welcome to the message board.

    I am assuming that the pictures are of the movement that you have.

    There are no replacement movements, or parts ... not saying that it would be quite imposable to find one though.

    Just wondering why you wouldn't get the original repaired. Or maybe you are making a duplicate of the old case and need a movement? :confused:

    Guess I / We need more information.

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  3. Steven Thornberry

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    It should be possible to repair (or have repaired) the movement, which I assume is original. Seems a pity to replace it, and it may be quite difficult to find a proper movement for this clock, in any event. Why not describe the problems it has in more detail? In the meantime, I will put this in the Clock Repair section where it will receive more notice.
     
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    If you replace the movement you will forever be sorry about it. Get it repaired.

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  5. Len Lataille

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    Dick

    Not necessarily. I've known many clock owners that want their clock to look "nice" and run well. They could care less about originality or potential market value. Substitute parts, rathbun bushings, globs of solder, screw in bushings, it's ok with them. No convincing them of the errors of their ways.

    I cant argue as it's their clock to make firewood out of, if they choose.

    The rest of us cringe at making changes in a clock, but that is our choice, just as well.

    The "persuit of happiness".

    As for Allyn, I cant see anything in the photos that would make me want to replace the movement, but then I dont have it in my hands.
     
  6. shutterbug

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    I've worked on these before. Generally the clock movement is fully encased and not visible. The movements are not hard to rebuild, and have the usual Gilbert issues (like the occasional cracked center pinion). I'd recommend having it repaired. A good clock smith can do what may seem amazing to the novice :) If you replace the movement, the value of the clock will plummet! If you do that, be sure to keep the original movement with the case so they can be reunited some time in the future.
     
  7. Andy Dervan

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    Hello,

    Ithaca Calendar Clock Co. typically used either Welch or Seth Thomas 8 day time and strike movements; they should be reasonably easy to restore/repair.

    Typically a good cleaning, replace a bushing or two, and possibly undo a previous incorrect repair.

    Collectors place a premium on having the correct movement in the clock.

    If you have questions about the correct movement, I suggest that you contact Joel Warren who repairs and builds reproduction Ithaca clocks - ithacacalendarclocks.com.


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  8. shutterbug

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    I'm pretty sure the Gilbert is the correct movement for the clock. Apparently Ithaca used several types :)
     
  9. Steven Thornberry

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    Yes, I have an Ithaca GF with a Gilbert movement, and I have seen numerous others with Gilberts. The calendar clocks were another story; I believe Ithaca used a variety of movements, as you say, e.g., Welch (I had one once).
     
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    So there has to be a trick somewhere here right? The movement is on a stand, in the back ground are tools of the trade, movements below the bench. I see nothing out of place on the strike side, pictures are not very clear so maybe there is need a couple of bushings. I have seen worse. Pretty basic movemet and repair. Quartz w/ chime?
     
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    That part hadn't registered with me. Good catch, bkerr.
     
  12. harold bain

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    I suppose having the right tools doesn't necessarily correspond to being a competent repairman. It may be time for our OP to learn how to do something about "totally wore out" before he resorts to taking the easy way out and quartzing it.
     
  13. salvtrinny

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    I have 2 Ithaca grandfather clocks ( spring drive ) with cracked center pinions. Can anyone tell me where to get new pinions, or to fix the cracked pinions. They both run fine , but the hands slip. Thanks Sal salvtrinny@aol.com
     
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  15. Willie X

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    They can also be repaired. Just search the archives on this MB.
    Willie X
     

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