Isaac Goddard Longcase Circa 1700-1710

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  1. DeanT

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    Restorers delight....

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    I'd forgotten how good that dial is.

    Will look so much better with these when they are done.

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  3. DeanT

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    A description might be useful....

    An early 18th century ebonised longcase clock by Isaac Goddard, London, the moulded and glazed hood with caddy top above a blind fretwork frieze and straight columns, 12" square brass dial with engraved wheatear border, applied silvered chapter ring, cast brass cherub & crown spandrels, Roman numerals with Arabic minute band, the finely matted centre with ringed winding squares and ringed, decorated date aperture and subsidiary seconds dial, the 8-day twin-train five-pillar movement with internal countwheel striking on bell, anchor escapement, the movement united by knopped and ring-turned pillars; above an ebonised trunk with lenticle glass, on a rectangular plinth base, case with restorations, complete with two brass cased weights and pendulum, 87"/ 221cm tall. (Loomes lists Isaac Goddard in London 1684 - 1699)
     
  4. zedric

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    Saw that on line back in November when it was up for auction, from memory it sold quite cheaply, but as you say it does need some TLC to restore it to its glory days. Nice clock
     
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    I think it would have done better in another auction where they could have been a bit more generous about the case. It looks like the movement and case have always been together and it really is a lovely dial. Goddard seems to have made some great clocks judging by the few that can be found.
     
  6. DeanT

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    Hey Zedric,
    Yes you are correct it wasn’t super expensive. Posted it to show what’s available in the current market for a reasonable price. Will come up a treat although I will probably get rid of a similar one I already have to make space for it. I am a sucker for black clocks especially Longcases and brackets. They certainly stand out.
    Apart from the hands the movement looks good albeit in need of a good clean!
    Cheers
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    Isaac Goddard was born in 1661 and was apprenticed to Samuel Davis on 2nd August 1675 and was turned over to Thomas Grimes and was freed 1st Dec 1684.

    He took William Lockin as apprentice on 29th Sept 1687 and Benjamin Goddard on 6th Feb 1692 who was free 3rd Nov 1701.
     
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    Dean, once again a nice clock, after restoration it will look great. I had one made by Benjamin Goddard, circa 1700. I think the Goddard came from France.
     
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    One of my customers has a FULL year running time & strike tallcase by Isaac Goddard in a similar case. I had a very skilled clockmaker clean and restore the movement 12 years ago and it hasn’t skipped a beat in that time. We do lubricate it every year. He’d be interested in purchasing another year going time & strike regardless of year of manufacture. It can be early, Victorian or even fairly recent but it must be a striking year going clock. Anyone know of any:???:
     
  11. DeanT

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    Hi Peter,
    I assume Benjamin was Isaac's son given he was apprenticed to him in 1692.
     
  12. DeanT

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    Any chance of some photos of the clock? Interested to see the case as it is currently being restored and I'm keen to see other similar Goddard cases. He seemed to like ebonised cases as I have seen a few very similar ones.

    Cheers
    Dean
     
  13. Joeydeluxed

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    I’ll look around tomorrow and see if I have any. The shame is I was there just last week and the clock is 1000 miles from me. I could have taken a full set of photos. Let me check through my computer tomorrow and if I have any I’ll post them. The case is not ebonized.
     
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    Dean, I've found several photos (mostly of very poor quality) of the Isaac Goodard. Because its a clients clock its probably best I don't publish photos of them publicly. However if you send me your direct email address I'll send them to you, but please don't publish them. The only history I know about is that the present owner bought it from John Carlton Smith about 25 years ago. My direct email is: Joeydeluxed@comcast.net
     
  15. DeanT

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    That is one of the nicest longcases I have seen. Ever! Isaac Goddard is obviously an underrated and little known maker who made some staggering clocks.

    Thanks
     
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    Before and after. Don't think I need to say anything as its pretty obvious the guy who did this is a master...….Nice one Peter!

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    It makes me want to have the Speakman done now rather than when I can afford it! He does a really great job.
     
  19. DeanT

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    The restored case. New plinth, finials, frets, hinges and re-polished. Another piece of masterwork from Scott.

    Ready for another 300 years.


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    Very nice! Now to get it home in one piece.....
     
  21. DeanT

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    We both know that isn't all that easy.....I spent several weeks arguing with customs that my last lot of clocks was for personal use and not a commercial shipment...then they didn't believe antique clocks of that age could cost so little.
     
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    In summary: I spent multiple times the initial purchase price on the restoration and maybe I could have bought one already restored for less but it feels special getting something brought back from the dead to last another 300 years. I will get even more satisfaction from this clock knowing I saved it from the scrap heap (actually all I did was paid to save it from the scrap heap). In addition, it gave some work to a couple of the most brilliant restorers I know (Scott and Peter) with much help from Nick who sourced the hands and weights amongst other things.

    Initial purchase price 390GBP, current value to me priceless! :)

    Cheers
     
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    That's a way off, it has to make two more journeys before it meets a crate.
     
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    [QUOTEInitial purchase price 390GBP, current value to me priceless! :)
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    Nick has reminded me of my Alzheimer's and that I paid 600GBP for it originally.;)
     
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    Photo of restored Goddard taken by Nick M with his cute alarm clock hanging next to it. Thanks.

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    I was going to take some better pics later with the DSLR rather than my phone but the weather has changed and the light is not so good today. Will have a go when back from Winchester.

    It is a very impressive looking clock, the newly restored dial is very well set off by the black case and the red silk lifts it all beautifully.

    (The cute alarm looks a bit sad because the hood has gone for a modification)
     
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    Looks great
     
  28. DeanT

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    Zedric, my initial plan was to get 4 longcases circa 1700, one walnut, one ebonized, one marquetry and one chinoiserie. I've now got the set so happy. :):) Whilst i might turn a few of the others over this one and Burrows marquetry are long term keepers.
     
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    Zedric, my initial plan was to get 4 longcases circa 1700, one walnut, one ebonized, one marquetry and one chinoiserie. I've now got the set so happy. :):) Whilst i might turn a few of the others over this one and Burrows marquetry are long term keepers.
     
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    Bit better I hope.

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