Is this keywind a swiss fake?

Discussion in 'American Pocket Watches' started by Dano4734, Mar 27, 2019.

  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  1. Dano4734

    Dano4734 Registered User

    I am no expert on them thank you . It’s a Dayton Watch co

    E53414A9-01CF-4272-AFBB-3786EE4687C4.jpeg E139C1E9-8BEF-4A8E-8B01-49E5BF1F384E.jpeg
     
  2. musicguy

    musicguy Moderator
    NAWCC Member Sponsor

    Jan 12, 2017
    4,256
    1,779
    113
    New York State
    Country Flag:
    That would be my opinion. Swiss Fake


    Rob
     
  3. Rick Hufnagel

    Rick Hufnagel Just Rick!
    NAWCC Member Donor Sponsor

    Oct 25, 2018
    1,057
    1,275
    113
    Male
    Plumber
    Pittsburgh pa
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Swiss, imitation american pocket watch is my opinion as well. Cool name on this one. Does it run??
     
  4. richiec

    richiec Registered User
    NAWCC Member

    Feb 24, 2007
    6,372
    306
    83
    Male
    automotive warranty inspector
    Brick, Ocean, NJ
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Is it my imagination or does that balance cock look out of place on this watch?
     
  5. Dano4734

    Dano4734 Registered User

    Needs serviced but runs
     
  6. Dano4734

    Dano4734 Registered User

    Better picture thanks guys

    20E89813-C884-441D-B8B0-55E81749D31C.jpeg 8BDE17C3-8283-4BE1-B412-5C3EAF4E86D3.jpeg
     
  7. Dano4734

    Dano4734 Registered User

    I should say it tries to run
     
  8. musicguy

    musicguy Moderator
    NAWCC Member Sponsor

    Jan 12, 2017
    4,256
    1,779
    113
    New York State
    Country Flag:
    Dano4734,
    I did go to your Sound Click website.
    Nice tunes.


    Rob
     
  9. Dano4734

    Dano4734 Registered User

    Thanks Rob I love to write and play music
     
    Stephen Matusek likes this.
  10. Dano4734

    Dano4734 Registered User

    How do I hear your music rob
     
  11. Jim Haney

    Jim Haney Registered User
    NAWCC Member Donor

    Sep 21, 2002
    6,217
    771
    113
    Male
    Working the farm, Garden,horses, goats, chickens,
    Decatur, TN.
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Why don't you guys do this in Private Conversations, it used to be Private Messages ?o_O
     
    musicguy and Keith R... like this.
  12. Stephen Matusek

    Stephen Matusek Registered User
    NAWCC Member

    Feb 25, 2015
    127
    93
    28
    Male
    retired
    Sugar Land, TX
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Looks like a Swiss fake to me. I see what richiec is talking about. The balance cock doesn't quite exactly mate to the barrel cover but it works.

    Steve
     
  13. Dano4734

    Dano4734 Registered User

    Thanks jim will do now that I understand and thank you for the info guys
     
  14. GeneJockey

    GeneJockey Registered User
    NAWCC Member

    Mar 2, 2012
    1,464
    489
    83
    Male
    Scientist
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Looks to me like the Swiss fake 1857, but trying to look like something other than an 1857.
     
    Stephen Matusek likes this.
  15. pmwas

    pmwas Registered User

    Dec 12, 2010
    1,724
    503
    113
    Sosnowiec, Poland
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    It's a lower grade Swiss fake, to me the balance cock looks fine. A Swiss fake, but these can be interesting as well - part of watchmaking history in America :)
     
  16. Keith R...

    Keith R... Registered User
    NAWCC Member

    Nov 27, 2012
    5,442
    1,827
    113
    Male
    Retired Sr. Proj. mgr,
    South
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    #16 Keith R..., Mar 28, 2019
    Last edited: Mar 28, 2019
    Part of watch making history in Switzerland, but wound up in America.:);)

    Keith R...
     
  17. topspin

    topspin Registered User

    Dec 14, 2014
    1,308
    93
    48
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Yup, it's definitely trying its hardest to look like a Waltham, therefore it's most likely to be a fake.

    Did it come with the case that it's in, if so what sort of case is it?
     
    Keith R... likes this.
  18. Dano4734

    Dano4734 Registered User

    Came with the case
     
  19. Keith R...

    Keith R... Registered User
    NAWCC Member

    Nov 27, 2012
    5,442
    1,827
    113
    Male
    Retired Sr. Proj. mgr,
    South
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Dano, I think he's asking what kind of case is it? This one was made by the
    Theiry Watch Case Co.

    Keith R...

    100_3058 (800x600).jpg
     
  20. Dano4734

    Dano4734 Registered User

    Mine case just reads silveroid 822 it’s a cool watch I think I will have it fixed as it’s part of Watch history anyway

    16B042D1-508C-411A-B2EE-39875FB9F7B8.jpeg 7523EB72-42B3-45DC-8BD5-8DCE222AFB37.jpeg
     
  21. Dano4734

    Dano4734 Registered User

    Needs service to keep time
     
  22. Dano4734

    Dano4734 Registered User

    Does anyone know who made this case?
     
  23. Rick Hufnagel

    Rick Hufnagel Just Rick!
    NAWCC Member Donor Sponsor

    Oct 25, 2018
    1,057
    1,275
    113
    Male
    Plumber
    Pittsburgh pa
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Hey dano, I have a few cases marked silveride, I have yet to nail down the manufacturer, I would love to know as well. For being nickel cases, they are very solid and well built. I have a kw hunter, keywind Openface, and stemwind hunter, and I like them very much.

    There is one thread here, I cant find right now, where someone mentions that max freund and co made silveride, but have never been able to confirm it.


    I have also seen coin cases with the same diamond with a 3 in it to mark weight, and instead of silveride it says coin silver, same font, decoration and everything, so I believe whoever made these had different varieties of cases.
     
  24. Rick Hufnagel

    Rick Hufnagel Just Rick!
    NAWCC Member Donor Sponsor

    Oct 25, 2018
    1,057
    1,275
    113
    Male
    Plumber
    Pittsburgh pa
    Country Flag:
    Region Flag:
    Ok sir found the post about max freund and silveride

    It was Russ Snyder that made that comment, so I would definitely lean towards it being correct!

    Read here
    Question for the Illinois Experts...
     
  25. Dano4734

    Dano4734 Registered User

    Thank you
     

Share This Page