American Ingraham

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  1. TimeafterTime

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    Hi folks,

    I got this in for repair and I would like to identify for my customer if possible. It's not listed in my Ingraham book 1st edition. It measures 16" x 10". If anyone can identify this mantel clock, i'd appreciate it.

    Thanks a bunch

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  2. Steven Thornberry

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    Am I correct in assuming that there is no label, even a partial label, but that the movement is an Ingraham? Does the movement have an adjustable pendulum? I see no way to regukate the speed through the dial. Can you post pictures of the movement?
     
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    There's no label. The movement is marked as Ingraham. I can post a picture of the movement later today. The movement is your typical time and strike kitchen clock movement.
     
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    Steven, here are a couple of pictures of the movement.

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  5. Steven Thornberry

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    Interesting. The movement is mounted to the backboard, I presume. Not what I would have expected in a clock of this kind. If all parts are original to one another, the clock would seem to pre-date the development of the thumbwheel regulator, which Ingraham patented in 1885.

    The pendulum bob must be adjustable, but I confess it looks very hard to get to. Of course, that is quite possibly why Ingraham patented the thumbwheel regulator - no need for an adjustable pendulum bob; simply use the thumbwheel.
     
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    Hello,

    Those blocks glued into the dial pan hole for dial screws look like a retro fit. Might this be a European case with an American movement?

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    I agree with Jim. That case looks European. Reminds me a lot of a Junghans I had.
     
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    I agree it looks like a German case, the blocks holding the dial look like a piece of moulding that has been cut to suit, also I doubt the screwing into end grain will last so be careful not to try and screw the dial back on to tight.
     
  9. Jessk09

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    I have an interesting ingrahm with what appears to have the same exact movement, the weird thing is the door is right hinged and is pretty hard to get the dial back on. I think this was a kit clock

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  10. Steven Thornberry

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    I doubt it is a kit clock. It looks like Ingraham's Kitchenette No. 2, though I would say that brass ornamentation was added after market That the door is right-hinged is not all that unusual, though it can be difficult in some instances to reattach a dial.
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  11. Jessk09

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    Thanks for the information there is a label (Partial)on the back of the top bit that reads:683-680D oak
    5//16X1-3/4.This clock also has a hanger for if it was hung on a wall...
     
  12. Steven Thornberry

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    May we see the label?
     
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    Sure
    (Please note it is mounted upside down)
    Another note: it’s hard to take a picture when your camera flips

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  14. Steven Thornberry

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    Thanks. The "683-680D" might be a part or inventory number. The rest is, I think, obviously descriptive of the material. It seems to be on the top part of the clock, correct? Perhaps at some time the top part was damaged and replaced, and the repairer left this bit of the label on the replacement part. There may be other explanations.

    BTW, I rotated the pictures to allow for easier reading of the label.
     

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