Informational Pocket Watch Threads

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  1. Fred Hansen

    Fred Hansen Registered User
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    Aug 18, 2002
    #1 Fred Hansen, May 7, 2008
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 26, 2015
    I'm planning to post links here to some interesting past threads from this forum, I've picked out quite a few to organize and post here but it will take a while to finish this and there are many more to come.

    Once I'm closer to getting through posting these I'll be very interested in any suggestions for new threads to add, or suggestions of how to best organize what is here.

    In the meantime here is some reading for a start!

    Quick References for Watch Company's, Case Makers and Jobbers (Wholesalers)

    American Watch Company's

    Watch Case Makers

    Watch Jobbers (Wholesaler's) Catalogs

    Dial threads
    Fake and reproduction dials
    Favorite dials
    Montgomery dials
    Ferguson dials
    Dial cleaning
    Rate dial
    "The Wells Dial" Elgin 18 size with 4 timezones
    Elgin 1873 Interstate Industrial Exposition of Chicago
    Keystone Watch Co. black dial
    Waltham "Marca Blanco" dial
    What causes hairlines?

    Case threads
    Interesting cases
    Cases with wild animals
    G.W. Ladd cases
    American Watch Case Co. gold cases
    Glassback cases
    Glassback cases, thread 2
    Muckle cases
    Baldwin reversible cases
    Kenosha “Badger” cases
    Pugh Bros.
    Robert & Foster cases
    Dueber "Railway" cases
    Wadsworth "Platold" cases
    Montreal [noparse]Watch Case[/noparse] Co.
    Case cleaning
    Switching factory cases
    Gold scrapping
    Gold testing

    General watch discussions
    4 Position watches
    Aluminum watches
    American Pocket Watches exported to Australia
    A.M. Hill New Orleans
    The best 12 size watch
    DeLong escapements
    First watch
    Factory buildings
    First 23 jewel
    Gold trains or Gold gears. Are they really Gold?
    Interesting damaskeens (Waltham)
    Lovely ladies watches
    Maiden Lane NYC "Watch District"
    Most prolific American PW?
    Non Magnetic watches
    Private label photos all 50 states
    Private labels
    Private labels more desirable?
    Private label desirability
    Street Railway watches
    "[noparse]Swiss Fakes[/noparse]" photo thread
    Train accident from watch
    What defines an American PW?

    Collecting discussions
    Collectors' motivations
    Condition, condition, condition
    NAWCC eMart vs. eBay
    eBay and Paypal fraud
    eBay and effect on buying
    Favorite finds of 2007
    NAWCC regional etiquette
    New Collector
    ”Parting out”
    ”Parting out” thread 2
    ”Parting out” thread 3
    ”Parting out” thread 4
    ”Parting out” thread 5
    The Sheldon scale
    Storing watches
    Switching, Ball example
    Selling watches
    What do you collect?

    Aurora Watch Co. threads
    17 Jewel movements
    Adjusted keywind movement
    Marked "Extra"

    Ball Watch Co. threads
    Hamilton-Ball serial #603
    Hamilton-Ball grade 938 serials 8701-8800
    Hamilton-Ball Adjusted "A"
    Hamilton-Ball "Railroad Watch Co."
    Hamilton-Ball "Wm. Kendricks" jeweler contract
    Hamilton-Ball 18 size grade differences
    Hamilton-Ball 18 size Brotherhood marked
    Hamilton-Ball 16 size dial
    Hamilton-Ball 999 Elinvar
    Hamilton-Ball grade 999B
    Hamilton-Ball grade 999B
    Hamilton-Ball grade 999B Straightline Damaskeen
    Hamilton-Ball grade 999B, 2B serial range
    Hampden-Ball "High Grade"
    Howard-Ball loaner watch and tag
    Howard-Ball pics
    Illinois-Ball double sunk Roman numeral dial
    Illinois-Ball hands
    Keystone-Howard Ball
    Waltham-Ball B&RP Railway presentation watch
    Waltham-Ball wind indicator
    Waltham-Ball early cases
    Waltham-Ball Official RR Standard hunting case
    Waltham-Ball Official RR Standard Pendent-set
    Waltham-Ball "Queen"
    Ball Montgomery dials
    Ball Montgomery dials, another thread
    Ball 1916 Loaner discussion
    Ball Ephemera
    Ball 1895 catalog image
    Ball boxes
    Ball Rockford prototype?
    Ball Altitude adjustment?
    Does anyone carry their Ball pocketwatch?

    Columbus Watch Co. threads
    Serial number database
    Columbus King ... 25, 23, and 21 Jewel
    Columbus Time King
    Earliest American keywind?
    Gilt adjusted movement

    Elgin Watch Co. threads
    Factory building photos from 1860's to 1930's
    Santa Fe logo dial
    Private label research
    Grades 155, 161, 243, and 246
    Gold colored hairspring and stud
    C.H. Hulburd research
    B.W. Raymond keywind marking variant
    Grades 156 and 162, raised pressed gold jewel settings
    Grades 149 and 150
    B.W. Raymond Grade 571
    B.W. Raymond Grade 506
    Elginium hairspring
    "Photographer & Indians" fancy dial
    Wind indicators

    Fredonia Watch Co. threads
    Bunde & Upmeyer private-label

    Hampden Watch Co. threads
    Canadian Pacific
    Canadian Pacific hunting case
    Grade 104
    Rio Grande Standard
    Moorhouse signed dial
    Railway gilt
    Hampden+104"]Special Railway / Grade 104 Discussion
    "3 Ball" damaskeen pattern
    12 size and 6 size 2-tone

    E. Howard & Co., Boston threads
    Series IV sales paper
    Series VII nickel vs. gilt finish

    Keystone-Howard threads
    1907 Howard booklet
    White gear train
    Series 0 first run with checkerboard damaskeen
    Series 0 with white gear train and original box
    Edward Howard serial #64 box
    Extra marking

    Ingersoll, Trenton, and Ingersoll-Trenton threads
    19 Jewel Ingersoll-Trenton

    Lancaster Watch Co., Adams & Perry, Keystone Watch Co. threads
    Lancaster "Keystone" grade
    Keystone dustproof
    Keystone black dial

    Newark Watch Co. threads
    Newark Watch Co. info

    New York Watch Co. threads
    "Hampden" grade?

    Otay Watch Co. threads
    Otay research
    Serial #1400
    Otay info

    Rare makers and others
    J.G. Hall watches
    Kelly Watch Co.
    M.S. Smith serial #59, movement signed C.L. Hoyt
    Wichita Watch Co. building

    Rockford Watch Co. threads
    Rockford grade 110, 115, 120, 125, 130, and 135
    Rockford Serial #1
    Rockford 1878 grade and price list
    Private label research
    Grade 900
    Grade 905 "Hauserman's Railroad"
    Early Rockford marked "Extra"
    Grade 500
    0 Size Rockfords

    Seth Thomas Watch Co. threads
    Seth Thomas Research

    South Bend Watch Co. threads
    South Bend Highest and Lowest Serial #'s
    Serial #1000000
    Canadian Private labels
    Jump Hour watches
    "Golden Era" private label
    Grade 292
    Grade 295 Studebaker presentation
    Grade 102

    Waltham Watch Co. and Waltham predecessor threads
    Presidential Presentation 20 size
    20 size American Watch Co. grade
    20 size dials
    1857 model discussion
    1857 model pinned plates
    1857 model "George Washington"
    1883 model private-labels
    1883 model 21 Jewel
    1883 model "Dominion Railways"
    1883 model "Empire State Special Railways"
    1883 model "Santa Fe Route"
    1883 model "Special" 2-Tone
    1883 model A,T. &Co. Gold flashed movements
    1883 model "El Tiempo De Waltham"
    1883 model C.P.R. HC
    1883 model C.P.R. train dial
    1883 model Fancy dial
    1883 model grade 35 with 12 circle damaskeen
    1892 model Vanguard in 6 million serial range
    1892 model Vanguard with jewel count "plug"
    1892 model Crescent St.
    1892 model Crescent St. 2-tone
    1892 model Royal
    1892 model Appleton Tracy & Co. first run
    1892 model Appleton Tracy & Co.
    1892 model Appleton Tracy & Co. "Premier" open face
    1892 model Riverside
    1892 model Riverside
    1892 model discussion
    1892 model Non-Magnetic
    1892 model Vanguard 19J HC model
    1892 model Vanguard Non-Magnetic
    1892 model Canadian Pacific Railway
    1892 model Santa Fe Route
    Warren #18
    5 minute repeaters
    1872 models in Centennial 1876 Expo
    1872 and 1888 model American grade dials
    1888 model "Diamond Express"
    Riverside Maximus lever-set
    American Watch Co. bridge model
    16 size Horological school watch
    16 size Cronometro Victoria
    Riverside, railroad grade or not
    Equity grade research
    "Marca Blanco" 24 hour dial
    25 Jewel Swiss made
    25 Jewel Swiss made
    25 Jewel Swiss made
    14 size star mark
    12 size "Crest"
    6 size plate layout
    4 size Crystal plate
    1882 model Am'n Watch Co.
    Bigelow, Kennard & Co.
    Waltham Tiffany & Co. or not (Tierany & Cox.)
    Eagle Cases
    Earliest 2-Tone?
    Conel hairspring
    Oversized dial with scene

    United States (Marion) Watch Co. and related threads
    US Marion research
    US Marion dial gallery
    North Star 18 size
    Empire City I.H. Fine
    Unrecorded Empire City examples

    U.S. Watch Co. of Waltham threads
    The President
    United States Waltham discussion
    United States Watch Co. (Waltham, MA)

    BILL KAPP Donor
    Sponsor Donor

    Feb 19, 2002
    Re: Past Pocket Watch threads

    Thanks Fred,

    As these threads disapear, those of us who are tech chalanged have a hard time finding them again!

    Your efforts are appreciated,

    happy hunting,
  3. Brian C.

    Brian C. Registered User

    Jun 9, 2001
    Re: Past Pocket Watch threads

    I second Bill's comments.
    Brian C.
  4. Kent

    Kent Registered User
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    Aug 26, 2000
    Re: Past Pocket Watch threads


    These are very useful links - thanks very much for your effort in putting them together!
    :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
  5. Fred Hansen

    Fred Hansen Registered User
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    Aug 18, 2002
    Re: Past Pocket Watch threads

    Thanks everyone! There is much more to come here and I just hope that this is useful to the board users and that it brings some viewers and traffic back to our great past threads.

  6. tomrsey

    tomrsey Registered User

    Jul 27, 2002
    Re: Past Pocket Watch threads

    Thanks Fred! Your work is appreciated very much.
  7. terry hall

    terry hall Registered User
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    Apr 12, 2001
    Re: Past Pocket Watch threads

    Anuther great job Fred!

    Stickie this one too!

  8. Tom McIntyre

    Tom McIntyre Technical Admin
    Staff Member Sponsor NAWCC Member Donor

    Aug 24, 2000
    Re: Past Pocket Watch threads


    In looking at the favorite dials thread, it occured to me that it would be useful to have a thumbnails index to the dials in that thread. If 80x80 thumbnails were made one could probably get all the images in a single post and make the thumbnails link to the replies in the thread.

    One issue is that the dial images would need to be copied (at the thumbnail size) to work. Would anyone object to such an effort?

    All the threads with heavy visual content might benefit from that treatment much as your thread index is providing help in locating information.
  9. Fred Hansen

    Fred Hansen Registered User
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    Aug 18, 2002
    Re: Past Pocket Watch threads

    Tom -

    I definitely wouldn't object and I think this would be well worth trying.

    One thing I'd like to see on this board is more ongoing themed threads with many photos ... and this sounds like an excellent way to make these threads more organized and the info more accessable.

  10. Fred Hansen

    Fred Hansen Registered User
    NAWCC Member

    Aug 18, 2002
    Re: Past Pocket Watch threads

    Bryan -

    Links to some good threads you may want to add into the index ...

    Warren Serial #18 ...

    Maiden Lane NYC "Watch District" ...

    Newark Watch Co. info ...

    The Sheldon scale ...

    South Bend highest and lowest serials ...

    Waltham Tiffany & Co. or not (Tierany & Cox.) ...

  11. Bryan Eyring

    Bryan Eyring Registered User
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    Dec 11, 2007
    Re: Past Pocket Watch threads

    Some fantastic threads there Fred and I have added all of them to the roster.

    I encourage all members to bring any threads of interest to my attention so we can add them to our growing sticky collection.

  12. Fred Hansen

    Fred Hansen Registered User
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    Aug 18, 2002
    Re: Past Pocket Watch threads

    This thread on Seth Thomas model 5 deserves a place in the index ...

    I think this is a great project Ed and Kent are working on and I'd like to see them get some input to this thread!!!

  13. Bryan Eyring

    Bryan Eyring Registered User
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    Dec 11, 2007
    Re: Past Pocket Watch threads

    Got Fred! Thank you and keep em' coming!

  14. Fred Hansen

    Fred Hansen Registered User
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    Aug 18, 2002
    Re: Past Pocket Watch threads

    Bryan -

    Here's another batch of good threads worth fitting into the index ...

    The collector's motivations ...

    Most prolific American PW? ...

    Fake and repro dials ...

    What defines an American pocket watch? ...

    Private label photos all 50 states ...

    Rockford grade 110, 115, 120, 125, 130, and 135 ...

    Elgin wind indicators ...

    Swiss Fake photo thread ...

    Elgin "Indians" dial ...

    South Bend Watch Co. clocks ...

    South Bend "Golden Era" private label ...

    Ball (Waltham-Ball) B&RP Railway presentation watch ...

    Ball (Howard-Ball) loaner watch and tag ...

    Waltham Vanguard 19J HC model 1892 ...

    Waltham Canadian Pacific Railway HC model 1883 ...

    Waltham "Eagle" cases ...

  15. Bryan Eyring

    Bryan Eyring Registered User
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    Dec 11, 2007
    Re: Past Pocket Watch threads

    All gems and all entered - keep em' coming!
  16. Fred Hansen

    Fred Hansen Registered User
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    Aug 18, 2002
  17. Bryan Eyring

    Bryan Eyring Registered User
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    Dec 11, 2007
    Re: Past Pocket Watch threads

    Thanks Fred and got it entered. A very good thread! :thumb:

    But I have to ask though - where is everyone else on this endevour??? These stickies are one of our greatest resources on this Forum and we have only the same individuals taking the inititative of cruising thru past threads to help build it. ;-{
    And so, Mr. American Pocket Watch Collector I challenge YOU to peruse the forum and make YOUR suggestions for adds to our STICKY library! :eek:

  18. Fred Hansen

    Fred Hansen Registered User
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    Aug 18, 2002
    Re: Past Pocket Watch threads

    20 more good threads for the index ...


    What got you started collecting? ...

    Interview with a collector ...

    Message found inside A. Lincoln's watch ...

    A Tragic Railroad Tale ...


    Webb C. Ball collection ...

    Ball-Elgin dial ...

    Ball-Hamilton B of LF #13029 ...


    Elgin "Overland" ...

    Elgin Veritas vs. Father Time ...

    Elgin Railroad model cases ...

    Elgin 1943 US Navy stopwatch ...


    Hampden State Street ...

    Hampden "Forest City" and "Menlo Park" ...


    E. Howard Watch Co. by Hamilton ...

    Waltham-Howard ...


    Manhattan Watch Co. ...


    Dennison Helical Hairspring Patent Model? ...

    model 1857 with interesting case inscription ...

    model 1883 "Paragon" ...

    model 1892 original prices ...
  19. StanJS

    StanJS Registered User

    Sep 20, 2006
    Re: Past Pocket Watch threads

    Here is an idea I am to lazy to research. How about a new sticky titled "Research" where anyone collecting serial numbers or other research data could have a thread so they are easy to find. for example, the Illinois Private Labels thread:

  20. mdloggins

    mdloggins Registered User

    May 16, 2005
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