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[lacho1674]

Hello members i would like to ask about this Lorennz pocket watch couse i am consedering buyng it
Is it original swiss made or its chinese copy
Thanks in advance

 

[Dr. Jon]

It looks like a nice movement and fairly modern with shock protection. If it is Chinese, hey did a decent job.

Even if Swiss it may be made up of parts from China. Swiss made only requires that most of its cost comes from Switzerland.

It looks like it can give long service.

 

[lacho1674]

It looks like a nice movement and fairly modern with shock protection. If it is Chinese, hey did a decent job.

Even if Swiss it may be made up of parts from China. Swiss made only requires that most of its cost comes from Switzerland.

It looks like it can give long service.

Thanks you sir

 

[eric the bully]

The movement is of the Seagull China, caliber ST 3600.
Regards enrico

 

[roughbarked]

These may be good watch movements but with some faults that weren't in the Unitas version. So they aren't quite as well made as the Swiss.

 

[Dr. Jon]

This watch is probably legally Swiss but with nearly all Chinese content. This is legal because labor is much more expensive in Switzerland, but it is a CHinese watch.

It is not a Chinese copy because it is not a copy of a Swiss watch.

 

[roughbarked]

 

[MrRoundel]

I think that's the first time I've seen a ratchet wheel that isn't solid, i.e., with spokes. It's interesting, but perhaps a weak point? I can't tell if the back is removed in the image or whether the case has a different sort of display back. If it is a display back, I guess I can see why they'd dress up the ratchet wheel. The movement is a bit "plain Jane" without that touch. It adds a bit to the overall aesthetics. At least to my eye. Cheers.

 

[lacho1674]

Is it worth acquiring it?
Kindly regards

 

[JTD]

Is it worth acquiring it?
Kindly regards

With the information you now have, it really depends on how much you like it and how much it costs.

Only you can decide, based on the information above.

JTD

 

[Dr. Jon]

Worth is personal. If you like these are fun to wear and nothing tells someone they boring you like taking a pocket watch out of a pocket and looking at it. It works nicely if you are into vests or clothes with watch pockets.

It should give good service, be servicable but it is very unlikely to hold much of its retail cost as an investment.

 

[lacho1674]

I dont get why its written Swiss made if the mechanism is chinese Seagull St 3600

 

[JTD]

I dont get why its written Swiss made if the mechanism is chinese Seagull St 3600

See Dr. Jon's post (#2 above).

JTD

 

[eric the bully]

To be eligible for Swiss Made 60% of the value must be of origin in Switzerland, only the value of the movement is considered. So it is enough that in Switzerland it is checked and adjusted to be Swiss Made.
Regards enrico

 

[roughbarked]

I think that's the first time I've seen a ratchet wheel that isn't solid, i.e., with spokes. It's interesting, but perhaps a weak point? I can't tell if the back is removed in the image or whether the case has a different sort of display back. If it is a display back, I guess I can see why they'd dress up the ratchet wheel. The movement is a bit "plain Jane" without that touch. It adds a bit to the overall aesthetics. At least to my eye. Cheers.

Back in the sixties, I saw quite a few Swiss watches with spoked ratchet wheels the same as that. AS 1686 was a common one.

bidfun-db Archive: Watch Movements: AS 1686

www.ranfft.de

 

[lacho1674]

How old is it what do you recon?
Regards

 

[roughbarked]

How young, you mean?