Identify Age / Manufacturer Private Label Pocket Watch Movement

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  1. timeless1

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    #1 timeless1, Mar 20, 2019
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    Hi,
    I would very much appreciate any help in identifying the actual MANUFACTURER / Country of Manufacture and AGE of this pocket watch movement. The movement is serial number, "54715". The name on the movement is
    N. P. Kilburn; I found on the Internet that in August, 1862, he came to Corry, PA and was the first jeweler in the town. He sold his business in 1874.
    The movement is 43mm diameter, as measure just below the upper lip. I presume the movement is 21 jewels.

    Thank you for any information that you can provide.

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  2. Dr. Jon

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    It was a very high grade movement certainly 20 jewels possible 21. Date would be mid 1870's. Maker? I can rule out many but ot looks a tl like Jurgensen stuff so it was made by the same people, possibly Piquet in Brassus
     
  3. Jerry Freedman

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    Can you describe the escape wheel teeth? They look strange to me.
     
  4. timeless1

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    Hi,
    Thank you for the information you provided! There is NO cap jewel for the balance staff on the top plate, so presumed 20 jewels. I have included a close up picture of the escape wheel area after removing the bridge; presumed you are seeing an addition to the pallet fork that extends to either side of the escape wheel (I am not sure what it is for?).

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    Balance is capped. Usually a 20 jewel watch has no jewel in teh dial side of the center wheel. Yours probably does because the the cannon pinion is on a pin through the center wheel.

    escape wheel has recessed hub, or as I prefer to call it raised tip teeth, a very high grade feature and very nice decoration of the lever counter poise.

    Interesting that a watch of this quality s not marked "Adjusted"
     
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    Thank you for the great information and some new terminology for me!
     

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