Marine: Huge Maritime Auction in Westport Ct, This Past Weekend

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  1. Ralph

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    For those who missed this auction, here is a link to the catalog.

    https://new.liveauctioneers.com/catalog/91928_nautical-clocks-watchmaker-collection#page=1

    If you have a login for liveauctioneers, it will show you the results.

    There was a huge number of chronometers, but 95% or more had been through a destructive fire. There were many great names and some technically interesting ones. I don't think there was a single running or complete chronometer in the lot.


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  2. Kevin W.

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    Prices were very low for many items. Too bad so many damaged.
     
  3. Ralph

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    It was a once in a lifetime event. There will never be another auction like this. The quantities will overwhelming. The condition of the chronometers was hell.

    It doesn't take much to deduce this was Max Low's horde.

    All the makers and suppliers of any consequence are now gone.

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  4. DeweyC

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    If it were Low family stuff i would think there would be lot more Elgin 600 stuff. Maybe it is coming. Wehn I was there in the late 1980s Chuck had a ton of Elgin parts (plates, bowls, wheels, chains, barrels but no escapement parts) and no Hamilton boxes. Historical fun fact: look him up on IMDB: he was in Goodfellas and The Mission.
     
  5. Ralph

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    There were loads of Elgin 600 chrono parts. Dials, serial numbered and unserial numbered... unsilvered, silvered. Unfinished chains, hooks, a few boxes, loads of other boxes, some Hamilton boxes, 21 and 22.. even some torpedo boat boxes..Incredible destroyed chronometers.

    There will be a lot of disappointed chronometer movement buyers.

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  6. DeweyC

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    Well Raplh, looks like your hypothesis was correct and Chuck is done. I wonder if he died. He used to make "obscene" phone calls to me; I really enjoyed him. But he was one of these guys that wanted to sell but hated selling at the same time. End of an era; may have to write down my story of him.

    The 600 stuff: they bought the enire line as it sat at the end of the war. They sold parts as kits for buyers to assembe; and when they ran out of balances they used M21 balance/springs. When they ran out of those, (and detents), it was a parts museum. I THINK he told me the serial numbers of what they could sell went up to around 700. Been a while but it was not high
     
  7. Ralph

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    Totally sick looking at all these destroyed movements. Wonder if there is any information on Chuck Low and how he amassed this amount of stuff. It is mind boggling to me.
     
  9. Paul Regan

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    Anyone know where the Negus logs went to?
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  10. DeweyC

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    Chuck Low still had them in the 1990s.
     
  11. Tom McIntyre

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    Were they in the $50 book lot in the auction? :)
     
  12. Paul Regan

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    Tom, they were in three lots containing four log books each. Great historical data. Hopefully they don't go into a "black hole".
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  13. Tom McIntyre

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    Hopefully, they will be donated to the NAWCC Library. If not David Grace should have them since he has done far and away the best scholarship on these things.
     
  14. Paul Regan

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    Tom, is there public access to his work? I do not know David Grace.
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  15. Tom McIntyre

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    Try doing a Google search on David Grace Chronometer. He has a fair bit of output and he is the content editor for most of the work coming out of the RMM.
     
  16. Jim Haney

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    Looking for suggestions or help on this auction. I won 5 auctions with about 30 Chronometer boxes and they were picked up by the recommend shipping agent, a UPS store #185 in Fairfield, Ct.

    She wants $1500 to ship the items and I said Wow! so I did a search and found 5 trucking companies for about $300. Now she wants $400 to pack them up and won't call anyone for a pick up and wouldn't give me a weight or how many cartons unless I pay her for packing them?

    Now she wants storage fee's until I pay for the packing.
     
  17. Jim Haney

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    I just wanted to update this and hopefully someone else can benefit from it.

    Ralph suggested I contact uship.com for bids.

    I had the UPS store pack the boxes up at her outrageous fee of $400(most workers in my town don't make that in a week) and they resulted in 3 boxes weighing 368 lbs.

    I received 6 bids from uship and took the 2nd which was UPS Freight service for $266 + uship fee of $50 and they will be picked up Tomorrow and delivered to me at my home address in several days with tracking.

    So I will end up with a cost of$716 instead of $1500.

    I will register a complaint with the auction company with details and the BBB.
     
  18. Jim Haney

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    Some pics of the Chronometer boxes that arrived safely.

    I ended up with 43 boxes and 3 had inter boxes, although they don't match the outer boxes.;)
     

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