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Hubert Herr hands

POWERSTROKE

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I just received this clock from an auction. The good ball didn’t tie the chains up or protect the hands. I have a cracked minute hand that I temporarily glued and spent a good amount of time getting the chains back on the wheels. The time chain went on in 13 seconds and the strike chain took longer than I’m willing to admit, I was about to send it back but it’s currently running on the wall, where can I get a new set of these hands? I’ll gladly buy from someone here, I’d like them soon. Much easier at this point then sending it back and paying shipping.

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Hi Powerstroke, I was just looking for some H. H. hands myself, Timesavers has them, just get the ones that say square hole hands they are for Hubert Herr clocks, BUT, there is 2 different versions of H.H. cuckoo movements that take different hands. They are very confusing to work on because of that. I personally hate H.H. cuckoos, they make their own movements and are not very well liked by most of the people I know that work on cuckoos for that and a number of other reasons. There are many more guys on here that know a whole lot more than I do so wait to see if any of them chime in on this before buying the hands. T.K.
 

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The large hand is about 30mm from the center of the hole where it goes on the arbor to the end of the hand. Not sure how they measure the dial. May e I’ll send this clock back. What other problems does this movement have? Any help? If anyone can drop one in an enevelope or a coupe different sizes I’d appreciate it.
 

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This is the movement in the clock. I’d greatly appreciate that if someone had an extra new one lying around they can put it in an enevelope for me. Like I said, the hands are about 30mm from center of the hole to tip.

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I wish I knew what hands to get. It seems that the minute hand is slightly less than 30mm. Maybe 28?
The dial is also hard to establish? Where is it measured from? The outer outer circumference or little ridge inside. Less than 30mm hand and more than 50 dial but less than 60mm.

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I can't see the beginning of your ruler, but the hands are measured from the center of the hole to the tip. Your hands are probably 28mm hands. Cuckoo clock hands are available from many of the clock parts suppliers. Ronell Clock has them, Timesavers, Merritt's. You don't list where you are located, but not matter where, you will probably pay more in shipping than for the hands.
 

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I'm far from a cuckoo expert but I believe most cuckoo dials are measured edge to edge as they don't normally have a chapter ring. Measure the diameter of your dial, most suppliers (like Timesavers) will give the measurements of the hand and then say which dial it fits. Looks like your hand has a bushing so make sure you get one of those.

Others will chime in if I'm wrong but I think if you look at the suppliers online you can figure out the right hands to get.
Don
 

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I'm far from a cuckoo expert but I believe most cuckoo dials are measured edge to edge as they don't normally have a chapter ring. Measure the diameter of your dial, most suppliers (like Timesavers) will give the measurements of the hand and then say which dial it fits. Looks like your hand has a bushing so make sure you get one of those.

Others will chime in if I'm wrong but I think if you look at the suppliers online you can figure out the right hands to get.
Don
I’m throughly confused at this point. Can I pull the old bushing out of the old hand and put it on the new one? I have some pics uploaded to this thread. Timesavers seems to measure by the dial. My dial seems to be greater than 50mm but less than 60mm. Hard to measure exact. with the movement in. Hands seem to be between 28-30mm from my pics with a brass bushing in the square hole of the hand. What size hands are available for Hubert Herr? I have no idea what to order, but the guy I bought this from is willing to foot the bill as I just received the clock yesterday. I have no clue what to do from here.
 

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Your dial looks to be 52 or 53 mm. Call it 50 mm, I don't think a mm short or long will matter at all. You can probably push out the old bushing, but I get the feeling you'd be better off getting one with it already installed.
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Your dial looks to be 52 or 53 mm. Call it 50 mm, I don't think a mm short or long will matter at all. You can probably push out the old bushing, but I get the feeling you'd be better off getting one with it already installed.
Don
Where can I get the correct hand? Timesavers is confusing to me. They don’t have the hand length listed and none of the hands have bushings installed. I just need to know where I can get these. A link would be helpful. I appreciate it
 

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Is it necessary to get a square holes minute hand or so you just need a square hole in the bushing? Point me in the correct direction. It can’t be this hard to get a new minute hand.
 

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Ronells lists the hands by mm size. A 30 mm hand is listed for a 7 cm dial. Separates them into round holes or square, etc. If you don’t get an answer here, you might try calling the company. I have found them to be very helpful. I don’t own a cuckoo, so can’t help more, Sometimes it takes a while for the right person to see your post.
 

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Ronells lists the hands by mm size. A 30 mm hand is listed for a 7 cm dial. Separates them into round holes or square, etc. If you don’t get an answer here, you might try calling the company. I have found them to be very helpful. I don’t own a cuckoo, so can’t help more, Sometimes it takes a while for the right person to see your post.
I appreciate the reply. The minute hand on my clock is 28 or 29mm but the dial is no more than 55mm. It has a square hole in the hand with bushing. I’ll see if anyone else replies,
 

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From your photo it looks like you can pop out the brass bushing. If you can, then you only need a hand with a square opening.
 

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I’ve personally never come across a hand bushing that wore out. Only ones that someone has mangled for some obscure reason.
 

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Powerstroke, here is set of hands from a Hubert herr. No bushing in the minute hand just 2 nuts, one to secure the hour and one to secure the minute hand. I may have a couple other Hubert parts clocks with hands as well. I can send them to you as long as you are in the U.S.A

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Powerstroke, here is set of hands from a Hubert herr. No bushing in the minute hand just 2 nuts, one to secure the hour and one to secure the minute hand. I may have a couple other Hubert parts clocks with hands as well. I can send them to you as long as you are in the U.S.A

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The minute hand shaft is threaded. I’m thinking it may need a bushing? I’m not sure.
 

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Can anyone really me where to get a square holed minute hand with matching hour hand withe these dimensions. That’s all I want to know at this point. Where the bushing I own, will fit into a square holed hand that is that length. If you have one. Send it to me and I’ll pay you. If not where can I get one

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The minute hand shaft is threaded. I’m thinking it may need a bushing? I’m not sure.
I’m not quite sure what you are trying to say. The brass piece inside the square opening of the minute hand is a bushing. Your photo of the dial shows the brass nut that secures the minute hand to the shaft. Ah! I see from your last post the brass does not come out of your minute hand. Give it a little more time. Someone will have the answer.
 

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I was told that the bushing shouldn’t be used in a hand with a square hole. The original owner who bought it new said it was never repaired. I tend to believe what he is saying. Where can I get a hand that this bushing will fit in, with these dimension. Preferably a set of hour and minute,

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The bushing doesn’t appear to be one that will come out, but you haven’t said whether or not it will come out of the hand you have. I don’t work on cuckoos, so have no idea if it comes out or not. if it comes out, finding new hands with a square hole in the minute hand shouldn’t be a problem. Ronells lists their minute hand as having a square opening of 3.15mm. Is that opening size a match to yours? Does your bushing come out? I think you need to answer those questions to get more help.
 

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The bushing doesn’t appear to be one that will come out, but you haven’t said whether or not it will come out of the hand you have. I don’t work on cuckoos, so have no idea if it comes out or not. if it comes out, finding new hands with a square hole in the minute hand shouldn’t be a problem. Ronells lists their minute hand as having a square opening of 3.15mm. Is that opening size a match to yours? Does your bushing come out? I think you need to answer those questions to get more help.
Give me a couple seconds. Why wouldn’t it come out?
 

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Some hands have bushings that are preened, making them riveted on. Since you have alluded that yours comes out, cuckoo clock hands are available from many clock part supply companies. Give one a call if you are unsure which hands to purchase.
 

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I just measured. The square in the hand looks to be 4mm. Comes out with no problem. So I need a hand that has a square 4mm opening that is about 29mm long. Please help.

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Checked the suppliers, and harder than I thought. The closest I could find is at Ronells #CC-402. It is 30 mm long, which can be shortened at the tip although I do not think you will notice a 1 mm difference. The square opening is only 3.15 mm, but being plastic, that could be filed larger to fit your bushing. They have a $5 minimum, so buy some clock oil or give them a call.
 

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