HOWARD Skeleton

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  1. artbissell

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    1892 18 size hunter 15j, 224764, was skillfully carved by a watchmaker without damaging performance.. artbissell

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    This is nice. Was cool to see in in person at the show earlier this month.
     
  3. pmwas

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    Eeeep! I always have mixed feelings seeing one like this. On one hand - took a lot of work and effort and now you can see how the movement works as it's working, but... I still think this used to look better before this massacre ;)
     
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    Art, Thanks for posting the photo of this Howard.

    There was a very skilled watchmaker who was making
    these from Elgin's and selling them on Ebay a few years ago.
    I emailed him a few times and asked about the process.
    It's not surprising how many hours it takes to make one of these,
    and you might not be surprised that they go through a few movements
    sometimes to get it right because they cut out too much.
    I find them very interesting to look at, but not sure if I would be a buyer.


    Rob
     
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    Hi Art,

    I confess that like Samuel Johnson, I wonder not that it is done well, (which I'm afraid it really isn't; to be honest, under close examination much of it has been left rough from the piercing saw), but rather that it is done at all.

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    Graham
     
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    Given the large number of uncased Howard movements just like this one that are floating around, I feel no outrage at the desecration of an original artifact. And the movement is pretty and interesting, even if it doesn't meet some people's finishing standards. Personally though, it is not something I would want to do (if I could), or to own.
     
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    So Art, is there no dial? As to the esthetic’s of this presentation, it seems no worse than some of the poor condition watches that the National folks tend to tweet on! Just my opinion! There was a watchmaker up in Indianapolis that converted 18S Elgin’s into tourbillion movements, and there were about a dozen of these completed! Have you ever seen one of these? They were made by a William Curtin, who passed away several years ago.
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  8. Rick Hufnagel

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    I like it and it's cool to see, but I don't think I'd ever involve myself in it. It's one thing to chop up a 6498, but it's almost like trying to change history when done to these. But to add a positive note I do like how the Howard is carved into it, that's pretty neat.
     
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    Pleased to receive the variety of thoughtful personal comments. I like it as a curiosity and example of super human skill and patience by the unknown watchmaker. artb
     

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