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How to verify Grade and other "discrepancies" - Waltham - U.S. Watch Co.

AceHigh

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Hello, new to this site and to the world of pocket watch restoration...that said I am a long time lover of pocket watches and everything old, the older the better (most of the time) Anyway getting to it, one of my recently acquired pieces is a Waltham U.S. Watch Co. #106097. The Pocket Watch Database says the grade is "P.S. Bartlett" but there is no stampings on the watch that I see to indicate that. The database also suggest that this particular serial number is a "key set" but this movement is a "lever set"
(the database pulled this exact serial, not one "close" to it)
My ask...
1) How can I confirm a grade (the info I have read on different grades match my watch to several grades)
2) Your thoughts on the "lever set" discrepancy.

I will attach photos and I love to learn. Thanks in advance!

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musicguy

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I will let others tell you more but this is not a Waltham Watch Co movement(watch) but
a US Watch Co. Sometimes mixed up becaue they both had factories
in Waltham, MA

Welcome to the forum!!!


Rob
 
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musicguy

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Also I am moving this thread to the American Pocket Watch section
for best answers.


Rob
 
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AceHigh

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Thanks Rob!
Now that you say that, I do remember reading there was a difference. my brain started getting the lines crossed thinking back to the late 1800s early 1900s when the Waltham watch company kept changing names including AWWCo
I’ve read so many different things that some of it definitely just went in and out, haha.
 
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Clint Geller

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In the past several months I have found at least three ebay listings in which US Watch Co products from the mid-1880s were represented as more desirable Civil War period American Watch Company products from the 1860s. In each case I politely informed the seller of their "mistake," hoping that they would be honest enough to fix it, but in all three instances I was disappointed. If nothing else, my messages deprived them of the excuse that they "didnt know."
 

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The watch was made about 1892..

It is lower end watch as it has gilt finish, flat hairspring, jewels are pressed rather than screwed in setting,. I suspect that it has only 11 jewels the dial is probably not jeweled.

Andy Dervan
 

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