How rare or unusual is this Forestville?

[It's About Time]

Hi Everyone!,

I just picked this clock up at auction. Some of the pics I show come from their site. I am wondering how rare a piece this is or anything else anyone can tell me. I think I can date it to 1841- 1842 for a couple of reasons. 1) becasue Harrison died in April of 1841 and 2) the label has two other names, which I assume were his partners. Clocks after 1842 only had his name listed (I read).

On the inside lower label it reads "_____ (only some letters still there of a really intact label) Tribute to the Memory of William Henry Harrison." Wm. Harrison was our 9th President and only lived by some accounts 29-30 days in office, dying of pleursy and pnemonia which developed from a cold he contracted while giving his lengthy inaugural speech in bad weather.

The upper label is in color and potrays a woman of sad coutenance leaning on a memorial pointing to a portrait of a man (assumably Harrison).

The dial spells Forrestville without the "e" on the end while the label includes it.

It has two weights with one being heavier/larger than the other. Am I correct in assuming the larger one runs the Strike?

I contacted the Wm. Harrison Association wondering if they would like to ad this to either of the Harrison Homesteads. I think it certainly ads a lot to the Harrison history picture. I haven't heard from them though. Perhaps that was presumptous on my part!

thanks for looking!
Lou

 

[clocks4u]

Great clock! Looks like the glasses and dial are original. Nice label too!

Here's a Forrestivlle Manufacturing Co. clock that I use to have in my collection.

 

[RJSoftware]

Super nice. A triple decker is on my lust list.

RJ

 

[It's About Time]

Clocks4u,
Thanks! I am real pleased myself! I think too, they are original.

GREAT CLOCK! Love those carvings. Are the glasses original? What do you think yours dates to?
Lou

 

[fume happy]

Lou, what are the names at the bottom of your label? I believe they will be most helpful in dating the clock.
Excellent find!

Clocks 4 u, do you have a high resolution picture you can send me of your splat?
I have almost your exact clock, but someone replaced the splat with a horrible reproduction eagle.
Thanks!

 

[Jerome collector]

According to Roberts & Taylor in Forestville Clockmakers, the other two names will help nail down the age of the clock. If the other two partners were E.N. Welch and Chauncey Pomeroy, then the clock dates to 1841-1843; if Chauncey Goodrich and Samuel B. Smith, then 1846-1847. If the former, that would tie in nicely with the death of President Harrison.

 

[glr1109]

Really nice looking clock!

Should be posted in the newest aquistions, best bargains, or favorite clock posts...Would fit all catagorys!!

greg

 

[clocks4u]

Clocks4u,
Thanks! I am real pleased myself! I think too, they are original.

GREAT CLOCK! Love those carvings. Are the glasses original? What do you think yours dates to?
Lou

If I remember correctly, the clock dated to the late 1830s. The lower glass is original. Moberg touched up the trees and part of the house. The center glass is also original, but most of the scene was flaked away. He repained that part and some of the border design.

I ended up selling this on the eMart. I thought it would end up somewhere back east, but a collector out here on the Oregon coast bought it. I didn't even have to ship it. Go figure..

Chris

 

[clocks4u]

Clocks 4 u, do you have a high resolution picture you can send me of your splat?
I have almost your exact clock, but someone replaced the splat with a horrible reproduction eagle.
Thanks!

Fume...I probably have one I can send you.

Chris

 

[ClockJim]

OUTSTANDING CLOCK!

 

[haneyk]

Most weight driven clocks use the heaviest weight on the time side.

 

[It's About Time]

Jerome Collector,
Thanks for the info. The names spread across the bottom are J.C. Brown, S.B. Smith and C. Goodrich - so I guess that makes it 1846-1847, according to your info. Still not bad at all!

haneyk,
Thanks for confirming the weight/strike position.

clocks4u,
I get some clocks that I think I will sell, and then I get attached to them! I had thought I'd sell this one, but now I'm having second thoughts, and thirds and fourths........ I buy what I like and it does me in!
Lou

 

[Kevin W.]

Its about time.I would say hang on to this one.That is one sweet triple decker.I would love one for my upside down ogee.Your clock is ingreat shape, a real keeper.

 

[clocks4u]

clocks4u,
I get some clocks that I think I will sell, and then I get attached to them! I had thought I'd sell this one, but now I'm having second thoughts, and thirds and fourths........ I buy what I like and it does me in!
Lou

I would love to have kept it, but I just don't have the shelf or table space for these larger clocks. I have a few of these early clocks right now and I only keep one on display at a time.

 

[It's About Time]

veritas,
I am not famliar with what you mean - "upside down OG".

Yeah, I think it's a keeper too. There are some things that don't show up in the pics, but overall - in good condition - IMO. It's the oldest one I have now too - except for the 1795 GF someone gave me awhile back.
Lou

 

[Kevin W.]

Itsabout time This is the clock i am refering to, this is taken from a NAWCC buletin. A upside down ogee.I have the movement.I need a dial and case.Currently it resides in a ogee

 

[It's About Time]

veritas,
That is nice looking too. I'll keep my eyes open for you.


Lou

 

[Sooth]

I have seen quite a few Forestville dials with the missing "E" at the end. And by quite a few, I'd say about 8-10? So it's definitely not a "rare mistake" for this company.

It's a prime example, as it seems to have both original glasses, a dial that's in great shape, original hands, and even an old key. If there's anything at all that I'd say might not be original, it would be the pendulum bob. It's definitely a very old one, but I'm not sure if they used these (embossed) in this style clock.

 

[specop]

This misspelling of Forestville is normal. Every J C Brown clock of this type
which has Foresville printed on the dial was spelt FORESTVILL. Which goes to show that either the printer made a mistake or the name has acquired an E on the end over the past 150 years,
As for an 'upside down OG' this is where the movement is mounted upside down
normally to lengthen the pendulum drop. Brown did this on a small number of his
OGs and Atkins on his large Regulator known as the Atkins Extra.

Your clock paper is certainly unusual with its additional picture and reference to
Harrison.

Specop

 

[It's About Time]

sooth,
Thanks. I am starting to hear this was normal and was this way on most of them.

specop,
Thanks for explaining what an "upside down OG" was! We are unfamiliar with the term or that clock. We had a clock in that had a second pendulum glued to the back of the first trying to get the same effect we thought. And according to the owner, she bought it from a "knowledgeable" clock repair person! Hmm.....I suppose that is one description!
Lou

 

[Kevin W.]

specop, how do you mean the upside down ogee is mounted up side down??
Mine is currently in a ogee case but not upside down??