Horology in art

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  1. doug sinclair

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    #1 doug sinclair, Nov 30, 2013
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    There is a recurring article in the NAWCC Bulletin concerning Horology in Art. How about we start a thread on the MB concerning the same topic. Here is a favorite of mine. I went to a farm auction a number of years ago, when I heard that there was to be a grouping of watch repair tools offered. There was nothing there that I was in need of, but there was an unused calendar from a (now defunct) local watch material supplier that I bid on, and won. The calendar was still in its original brown kraft mailing envelope, and is from the year I was born (1940). The painting is by an English artist, Charles Spencelayh. His work is shown at the Tate Gallery in London, England. I have had this picture reproduced numerous times, and given them to members of the watch fraternity, locally. Examples of his work (including the subject picture) may be seen at:

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    There is a Norman Rockwell painting I like, as well. I was inclined to post a link to it, but I was uncertain that would be proper as it is copyright protected. The statement " fair use" shows with the image, so it might be okay. But just in case! If interested, Google Norman Rockwell " Watchmaker of Switzerland" painting.
     
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    Posting a link should constitute no problem.
     
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    Love that picture, Doug, brings back memories when you could take some broken item, a watch, bike, etc, down to the local repairman and he would tinker with it while you waited to see if it was an easy fix. It seems that level of one on one is a dying art these days. My poor little Timex spen more time in the oven due to fishing than the fish did.
     
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    My wife bought this copy of a painting at the ESR last summer. There is no indication of who the artist is. Looks like a Colonial clock repairman working out of his home. Enjoy.
     

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    Off the top of my head, my 2 favorites.

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    The Country Wedding, by John Lewis Krimmel. He was a wonderful American genre painter of the early 19th century. Note the broken arch cased tall clock. Also includes other areas of interest for me. Note the 2 silhouettes of a couple over the mantel, the country furniture, Windsors, etc.

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    The Quilting Frolic by the same artist. Note, it's almost the same house (few changes). Appears to be the same couple and other people? The same clock appears to have been moved to the other side of the room. Same silhouettes.

    If memory serves me correctly, that clock has been identified and still exists. I may be confused on that last point.

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    Yet another painting with a horological element that comes to mind.

    "Taking the Census" by another wonderful American genre painter, Francis William Edmonds.

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    This painting was probably painted about 1854, 30-40 years after the previous Krimmels.

    There's much symbolism here. But just focusing on the clock, for now.

    Note the ogee prominently displayed on the mantle. If you look closely, it has a reverse painted scene of a cottage. Probably much like the place where it's housed.

    In about a generation, we go from a bespoken tall case to a mass produced clock. The ubiquitous, practical, durable and attractive ogee. And so affordable, even a simple farmer living in a humble cottage can have one.

    Thank you Mr. Jerome. Maybe even one of his products?

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    Nice picture, RM. I've been reading Chauncey Jerome's book (again) recently, and he certainly deserves much respect for his place in American horological history.
     
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    I second that about Jerome.

    Let's not forget his brother Noble, too.

    They represent a brilliance in simple durable solutions!

    My iPhone won't function as it was intended in 100 years. With proper care, their ogees still do.

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    Images of clocks and timepieces are well known in other forms of American folk art.

    Fraktur is both a style of lettering and refers to the wonderful illuminated documents created by German immigrants to rural Pennsylvania and surrounding areas in the 18th and 19th centuries.

    These documents may commemorate personal events, eg, births, baptisms and marriages. They were also used to convey spiritual messages, for instruction, etc.

    Clocks and clock faces were depicted and often incorporated into the design as the following examples demonstrate. Note that in the earlier one, the timepiece depicted has one hand as might be expected!

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    Ok, don't want those watch people to feel left out of this.

    Sorry, not going to post the expected "Persistence of Time and Memory" which has almost become cliché at this point for this purpose. Alright, here's a version I will post:

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    Instead, another work by another 19th century American artist, John Adams Elder.

    He painted genre scenes, landscapes, battle scenes and portraits. Quite the range? He also painted portraits. He served in the Confederate Army. His portraits include people like Lee.

    This painting is called "Mother's Watch".

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    Another painting with a horological theme just came to mind. Why it did I don't know.

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    This painting is titled "Time Transfixed" and was created by the Belgian surrealist, Rene Magritte.

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    "Time Transfixed" is a favorite of mine. It's absolutely nonsensical, but it contains two of my favorite subjects - clocks and steam locomotives. The black slate clock is reasonably accurate in shape, and the steam locomotive isn't too far off - it appears to be an LMS Royal Scot class.
     
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    Surrealism and clocks.

    Most are familiar with the famous Dali painting, "Persistence of Time and Memory".

    See these links to the website of the Polish surrealist painter, Jacek Yerka:

    Search Results for “clock” – Yerkaland

    Database of works – Yerkaland

    I guess in the 2nd link, you need to put the word "clock" in the search bar provided as it did not keep that choice there.

    Can anyone date and ID the clocks shown...ha, ha, just kidding.

    Not sure I'm crazy about his work, but it is interesting?

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    Previously on this thread I mentioned the use of clock and clock dial motifs in PA fraktur.

    Amongst the type of ephemera produced were bookmarkers. For more about this, see "American Folk Paintings from the Abby Aldrich Rockefeller Collection", pages 326-327. I believe that it is one of these bookmarks produced in 19th century rural PA. The form and size are similar to examples shown in the above reference.

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    It's watercolor and ink on wove paper.

    Obviously what appealed to me is that an 18th or 19 century tall clock is depicted.

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    Nice, Tim. How about private labeling it T. Fitzgerald & Co.

    I've raised a similar question about the pocket watch in this Magritte I saw last summer at a Magritte exhibition at San Francisco's Museum of Modern Art. See Help Identifying This Magritte Pocket Watch.

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    I saw this Max Ferguson today at the Crystal Bridges Museum in Bentonville Arkansas.

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    Artists or art curators sometimes bloviate about artist intentions or the meaning of a piece of art, as illustrated by this explanation of the Zulu Time nexus of this installation in the Blanton Museum of Art in Austin.

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    That is hilarious, Ethan :excited:

    It goes to prove the truth of the often made comment that "Modern art which requires a written explanation of its meaning has failed".
     
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    I just discovered this thread. Kool pics! (mostly :rolleyes:)
     

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