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Hershede hour chime never correct

Little Bill

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I know this is a newer model and not worth much but it works great and sounds great. I cleaned and oiled what I could without taking apart. I had to put the chains back on and hang the weights and they are well marked so they are in the right place. My problem is the hour chime is never correct and after watching it, it appears not to be moving far enough down the later the time is on the hour. I can hold the movement and it jumps to the correct notch thought. I’m a newbie so go easy on me. Am I missing a spring or weight on this to make it move to the right notch?
 

Little Bill

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The 1/4 hours are working correctly! The hour chimes are not consistent. For example it is set to 11 o’clock. It chimed 7 times. The ten o’clock it chimed 10 times correctly. The movement in the last picture doesn’t seem to move far enough for the correct hour chime’s. 4C4B8B52-0865-4EA7-8764-12B463A52B76.jpeg
 

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Bill, the best way for us to understand and be able to help you is to see it in action. Make a video of it on YouTube and upload it to this thread and we can help you.
Will
 

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Hi Bill-

"Chime" is a tune played at the quarter hours and "strike" is what is done at the hour to denote the hour. The rack is a saw-toothed lever that is part of the rack-n-snail strike mechanism. Your rack pivots on a post and, when this gets sticky, the rack tail fails to drop onto the snail properly and is left hanging in the air.

Remove the E-clip holding the rack assembly onto the post, clean inside the tube and the outside of the post, and then reassemble. This pivot point doesn't receive oil.

Oh, and the lever above the rack is the rack hook. That pivot point needs to be cleaned as well. And no oil there either :).

Hope that helps!

D.
 
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Little Bill

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That’s probably the problem Because I oiled it at both points. I will take off and clean and try it again! If that doesn’t work I will video it and post!
 

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Your movement looks complete but here are the blueprints for future reference:


The Herschede 1200 series was their equivalent to the German Urgos UW32 and Jauch 78 movements.
They were offered with Westminster chime like your clock, or triple chime Westminster/Whittington/Canterbury.
 

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I think the small spring is in the wrong place, the metal post to the left is where it should be, therefore pulling the upside down L shaped lever back left after the chime has been activated.
 

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I think the small spring is in the wrong place, the metal post to the left is where it should be, therefore pulling the upside down L shaped lever back left after the chime has been activated.
Jimmy, it looks wrong but if you blow up the diagram above, it is right.:???:?
 

Willie X

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Yes, 'T-bone' spring is correct.

I'm pretty sure that one came from the Urgos factory. But, it's not quite identical to the usual UW-32.

Willie X
 

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The Herschede 600/1200 series is an oddity since they were not well documented compared to the more familiar 5 & 9 tube cable driven movements. It resembles a German Urgos movement but they are not signed 'Germany' on the plates and there are differences in the plates, hammer frame and flywheel setups. They are signed with the Herschede crown and a 5 digit serial number which goes up to at least 22000. Chimes on rods which were made at the Starkville plant.

Some archived links showing the same movement and a complete clock:



 

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