Herman Miller Clock Company movement??

legosnell

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I have a Herman Miller Clock Company (Mantel Clock) which I think dates somewhere between 1926 and 1937. The name changed to Howard Miller Clock Company in 1937. I'm trying to figure out what movement is in it. I know it's German. The patent on the back of the movement, four rows of numbers preceded by the letters "DRGM" are supposed to be German copyright patents. Research shows that the DRGM #916380 (the first of the four) was issued on the 8th July 1925 to the clock manufacture Haller & Benzing A.G. of Schwenningen which is where the movement for this clock must have been made. So would this confirm that the movement is a Haller A. G. Movement even though the movement has the Miller trademark symbol brand stamped on the back plate?
I would think that the Herman Miller clocks would be quite rare in comparison to the Howard Miller Clock Company clocks.

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legosnell

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Haller & Benzing and Haller AG are different companies.

There were quite a few German clock companies with the name of Haller.

Regards.
Also found this: Haller & Benzing Clock manufacturing company, based in Schwenningen, Germany. Made industrial and domestic clocks. Ceased trading in 1928. The design of their patented three-train movement was subsequently used for all perival three-train chimers until the 1960s and for post 1933 chimers. (maybe their patent was only good for so many years and then after that, anyone could use their design?)
 
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Also found this: Haller & Benzing Clock manufacturing company, based in Schwenningen, Germany. Made industrial and domestic clocks. Ceased trading in 1928. So I wonder if this would help date my clock to between 1926 and 1928?
It is possible that your clock was made pre-1929, and by its looks, I would agree.

BTW, the other patents listed on your movement - 968155, 968156 and 968157 - were also issued to Haller & Benzing.

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It is possible that your clock was made pre-1929, and by its looks, I would agree.

BTW, the other patents listed on your movement - 968155, 968156 and 968157 - were also issued to Haller & Benzing.

Regards.
Thanks for the information and feedback. so maybe timeframe would be 1926 to 1929. That narrows it down pretty close and I'm happy with that. A Herman Miller Clock Company mantel clock with a Haller & Benzing A.G. Movement circa 1926 to 1929. Appreciate it. I wonder if the 000143 would be the serial number and the 143rd movement made.
 

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so maybe timeframe would be 1926 to 1929.
As H&B went out of business in 1929, the patents could have been licensed or sold by H&B to another firm(s) prior to H&B's dissolution, which would lead to the possibility that your movement is older than 1929. But I think it is safe to say your movement was made during the period 1926 to 1929.

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