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[Dave22]

Is there any thing wrong here because the pendulum swings very bad. Just picked it up today

 

[Dave22]

I read its helpful to share more, I live in the United States. I have many tools probably none of which should touch this clock. Probably best to just say I know nothing about clocks.

 

[Thomas Sanguigni]

The crutch and the leader are bent. The pendulum leader should hang straight and true from the suspension spring. The crutch should intercept the leader at 90 degrees.

 

[Steve Neul]

Not sure what I'm seeing. To me it looks like the pendulum hanger is on the wrong side of the chime rods. If that is the issue it should hang straight down from the suspension spring.

 

[wow]

The crutch is bent out away from the back plate pushing the leader out. The leader should hang through the center of the crutch fork not binding on the front or back side. Bend the crutch toward the movement until it hangs straight.

 

[Willie X]

I would start by taking the leader off. It should be flat/straight from top to bottom. Willie X

 

[Dave22]

Thank you all, I thought something needed bending but wanted confirmation. Will try when done with work.

 

[Dave22]

I have straightend some things and bent others. It has finally ran for 30 minutes. I think it lost a minute and I think its tic and toc is off also. But I think I seen some complicated videos on fixing that stuff. Thanks to all taking the time to help a stranger.

 

[Steve Neul]

I have straightend some things and bent others. It has finally ran for 30 minutes. I think it lost a minute and I think its tic and toc is off also. But I think I seen some complicated videos on fixing that stuff. Thanks to all taking the time to help a stranger.

Very often when the tick is off it's because the clock isn't completely level. You might check it with a level and if it reads right tip it a little each way to see if the tick sounds better. The case itself may be different than the seat board where the movement is mounted. Better to eliminate level as the problem before making any adjustments to the movement.

 

[Dave22]

Holy smokes its off a country mile, the bottom of the case said level but up high by all the clock stuff definitely off. Thank you. Bet you just saved me a ton of time!

 

[Dave22]

Well leveling that made it not work, checked the other side of movement mount and had to go the opposite way. Looked down the board and its bellied. Should I replace that before going any further?

 

[Willie X]

No ... saging seat boards are common and not usually any part of the problem at all.

Use a longer level (6" or longer) and place it on a side glass, or the side of the door frame. I always use the right side of the clock, just for consistency.

Front to back 'level' usually is not critical. I go for the case leaning back to the wall about 1/4" or so. Leaning forward can be very un-good.

Willie X

 

[Steve Neul]

About all you can do it get it close with a level. The tick will tell you if it's happy or not.

 

[Willie X]

Yes, leveling is just for looks.
It has little to do with the actual beat of the clock. Actually, nothing to do with the beat, unless someone else has adjusted the beat previously using the same level placed on the same place on the clock.

It's just a good starting point. There's not much point in starting to adjust the beat unless the case is plumb.

Willie X

 

[Thomas Sanguigni]

You may want to remove, as much as you can, the green Hermle crutch grease. A little fresh grease is better than a lot of dried crud. It can sap your power. The idea of the grease is to mask the 'crutch slap' while running. It should not travel down the crutch. Please post a few more photos.

 

[Dave22]

It works well for a few hours sometimes more sometimes less, then just stops. I called local clock guy and was gonna take it in for cleaning but he said I wouldn't see it again for atleast a year. Must be the business to be in! Does this grease have to be a special clock grease? I have rifle grease and automotive grease.

 

[Dave22]

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[Willie X]

Grease on the crutch pin or tongue will make no difference at all, as far as your clock's running, or not running. I actually can't see the area where the crutch plays against the leader.

I can see a lot of 'pivot poop' on that clock. This is a sign of pivot troubles but sometimes just old dried up oil.

Willie X

 

[Dave22]

Not sure if this pic helps. I know its strongly not recommended but when I have some time when the snow starts flying im thinking I'm gonna take it all apart and clean it. I have rebuilt engines and transmissions. Is there really no chance of me getting it working properly if I take it all apart?

 

[Rob M]

Never seems to amaze me how much others can see so much in the pictures posted here. Wish I could see what yawl see.

 

[J. A. Olson]

I see an Urgos UW32 movement in the photos which hasn't been serviced any time recently.
The crystal ball foresees further problems that may only be amended with a complete overhaul.
I will leave it to those who have repaired several UW32s to point out their perks and pitfalls.

 

[Dave22]

I have no emotional connection to this clock. I have always wanted a grandfather clock, but dont have room for it. House is small. I have 0$ invested in it. The question no one can probably help with is give it away or find someone to overhaul? Anyone know prices? How much this thing is worth roughly and how much to overhaul? Is the berry worth the squeeze?

 

[wow]

In my area these clocks bring $200-$300. Prices to rebuild vary a great deal. Do you know a repairman in your area?

 

[Willie X]

Wow's answer is about all that can be said.

Plenty of pivot poopage visible in post #17, second photo. It's on all the front pivot holes and other places. Most of it is a loverly green.

Willie X

 

[Thomas Sanguigni]

The pivot poopage sure looks like the same grease on the crutch. Lots of time to overhaul. If you do attempt to rebuild take lots of photos.

 

[Rob M]

Thomas, Willie, WoW, and JA -- Ok....I just figured out how to do a close-up of the pictures.... Green.... Ouch!

Dave -- you might want to start on a single or double arbor before working on something of this complexity. Just sayin.....

 

[shutterbug]

I'll just mention that a running clock will bring a much better price than one that needs repair. It's like buying a used car. if you have to fix it after you buy it, you'll likely pass on the purchase.