help with Watham 1883 wwinding mech.

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Can anyone show me a photo of how the setting wheel spring is supposed to look in relation to the potance and setting wheel on a Waltham 18 size 1883 model ? Does the spring rest under the setting wheel? I can"t seem to get the ratchet wheel to engage and when I try to wind the mainspring the entire spring barrel turns.
I will try to down load some pictures of what it looks like at this point ,but any ideas would help at this point.
 

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Here's an 83 I had in the parts bin, maybe these photos help? It's pendant set, open-faced.

It was all together and wound and set correctly, so everything should be correct in the photos

If this isn't the correct setup like yours, with the absence of photos, give a serial number to look up what your working on.

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Here's an 83 I had in the parts bin, maybe these photos help? It's pendant set, open-faced.

It was all together and wound and set correctly, so everything should be correct in the photos

If this isn't the correct setup like yours, with the absence of photos, give a serial number to look up what your working on.

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Thanks for the info Rick I will check the pinion on this watch in the morning. The watch I am working on is a lever set but it looks much like the one in your pictures. I am particularly interested in the position of tip of the spring under the yoke in your second photo at about the 2 o clock position and weather it should rest on top of or under the setting wheel? the serial number is 4862920 if that helps.
 

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It I remember correctly the spring is there to lift the setting wheel upwards so try it under the wheel.

When the yoke is in winding position the setting wheel is pushed upwards and disengages from setting time. When i setting position the wheel is pressed down and engages the setting mechanism.
 

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As Skutt50 states, the spring goes under the pinion so when the watch goes from winding to setting it goes up into position and then down out of the way
 

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Up Down, Setting Winding....
I can't figure it out right now and I am not at home to check, but in case of any confusion I would trust richiec.

It will be obvious when you try it out and specially when you have the minute wheel mounted....

Good luck with your repair.
 

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To clear it up, in setting mode it is pushed up by the spring and then pushed down by the yoke during winding
 
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