Help Help with information about a clock and its repair

[MOTYALTER]

I purchased this watch at an auction
Needed repair by a watchmaker
I would like to be helped by you how to fix it
And if anyone knows what company it is and year of manufacture
I would really love to
I really enjoy reading the interesting threads here about watches and repairs
Lots and lots of success to everyone
Thanks
Moti

 

[JTD]

if anyone knows what company it is and year of manufacture

It's almost certainly a German clock, but we need to see the back of the movement, where there may be the maker's name or logo. Probably dates from first quarter of 20th century.

I would like to be helped by you how to fix it

What needs to be fixed? If you can explain and show us photos, there will be many who can probably help you.

JTD

 

[shutterbug]

It's probably a time and strike movement. It would be a pretty good learning movement for you. Yes, post details with you get around to looking into it. By the way, it is more appropriately called a clock here

 

[MOTYALTER]

Pictures I was able to take
There is no number on the mechanism
If we need more pictures I will take them
Thanks in advance to those who help me

Moti

 

[new2clocks]

Pictures I was able to take
There is no number on the mechanism
If we need more pictures I will take them
Thanks in advance to those who help me

Moti

Can you provide a better picture of the gong bracket so that the logo is not obstructed?

Regards.

 

[roughbarked]

Karl Petersen made the clock.

 

[MOTYALTER]

Do you know who the manufacturer is and what year it was made?

 

[JTD]

Do you know who the manufacturer is and what year it was made?

Uhrenfabrik Karl Petersen were in business from 1922 to 1930, when it was integrated into Gebr. Petersen .

So that limits your clock to 1922-30, which is probably the nearest that can be achieved.

 

[MOTYALTER]

Thanks to those who answered
I'm trying to set the clock
I tried with a level and shifts to the sides
I lubricated the mechanism well
But the pendulum stops after a few minutes
I would appreciate help from wonderful people like you
happy Passover to everyone

 

[Simon Holt]

The important thing is not whether the clock is level. What is important is that it is 'in beat'; i.e. every tick and every tock is evenly-spaced, just like a metronome. Tilting the clock left or right makes a difference to the evenness of the beat.

This explains how to put a clock in beat: Beat Setting 101

Simon

 

[shutterbug]

The crutch is badly bent and is touching a chime bar. It won't run that way. There is something very wrong with that suspension post. It is way too long. That and perhaps the verge has been replaced. Either one is cause for alarm. It shows that someone before you was fiddling with it and might have cause multiple problems for you.

 

[tracerjack]

As shutterbug points out, there are some problems here. I hope this picture explains it to you.

 

[Willie X]

Me thinks that's going to be to close.

Few modern floor clocks will have a 'close to the plate' crutch. On most, the suspension spring is pinned to the back hole and the leader slants back to accommodate that position.

To far forward will make the pendulum hit the weights, to far back will make it hit the chime rods.

Willie X

 

[tracerjack]

Me thinks that's going to be to close.

Few modern floor clocks will have a 'close to the plate' crutch. On most, the suspension spring is pinned to the back hole and the leader slants back to accommodate that position.

To far forward will make the pendulum hit the weights, to far back will make it hit the chime rods.

Willie X

I was going off the photos in post #4, and thought the case was a wall clock. Going back to post #1, I see it is a floor clock. Thanks for catching my mistake.

 

[MOTYALTER]

I really thank you for the help It motivates me to fix it I took the pendulum out of its place And I raised from the left side of the clock The pendulum began to run and the clock advanced I did understand your explanation and it is progressing well But after hanging the pendulum upright. The clock stopped again Does this mean that there is also something to fix in the pendulum? I'll just point out. The weight in the pendulum was disassembled I put the tongs with the screw into the plate and I screwed it all the way down. Right now the highest position the barbell can be. It is possible to screw it back and lower it more and more And another question. To straighten the curve made in the rack as explained in the drawing? Maybe it was done on purpose so it wouldn't damage the weights... I also see that the hammers are misaligned and some are hitting the air. I still have a lot to understand and I'm glad you're using your time for it May there be a blessing in everything you do Amen Moti

 

[MOTYALTER]

Attached photos

 

[shutterbug]

It does look better in that picture. However, the crutch slot needs to be bent downward, parallel with the floor.

 

[tracerjack]

….”To straighten the curve made in the rack as explained in the drawing? Maybe it was done on purpose so it wouldn't damage the weights... I also see that the hammers are misaligned and some are hitting the air. I still have a lot to understand and I'm glad you're using your time for it May there be a blessing in everything you do Amen Moti

Yes, you are correct, it is done on purpose to protect the pendulum from striking the large weights. The diagram in Post #12 was mine, but I thought your clock was a wall clock, so please DO NOT bend the crutch like the diagram. Your clock is set up correctly. As for the hammers missing the rods, it often takes many attempts to get the right bend in the hammer wire so the head strikes the chime rod cleanly.